05 GT vs the IROC?
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05 GT vs the IROC?
Well those new mustangs are sure popular in my town and I finally got an opportunity to kinda race one last night. I tried to egg her on but didn't bite at first, so i pulled ahead and took her lane to turn left onto a smoother straight stretch.
she follows and I slow down to let her catch up. finally it looks like she is going for the pass so I get on it as she came zooming to my rear bumper. through first i put another car length onto my lead but as we keep racing it stayed pretty even, she might have been reeling me in slightly as we approached 100mph. That was definatly a tighter race than I expected. I was expecting it to have the high end power over my stock TPI..
anyone else race the new GTs?
she follows and I slow down to let her catch up. finally it looks like she is going for the pass so I get on it as she came zooming to my rear bumper. through first i put another car length onto my lead but as we keep racing it stayed pretty even, she might have been reeling me in slightly as we approached 100mph. That was definatly a tighter race than I expected. I was expecting it to have the high end power over my stock TPI..
anyone else race the new GTs?
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Good run. Are you sure it was the GT? What mods do you have on your IROC? They are pretty quick and I would have expected her to pass you.
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I paced a mustang gt vert yesterday in my GTA. First time I hung with him. I got a great launch, no tranny issues, no wheelspin, or anything like that. This was on a one lane road by the way so no way to go side by side, just thought I'd throw that in there. Anywho, he shut it down at about 60ish cause he wasn't pulling or anything, but I also wasn't gaining either. Second time I did think he was going to go and he plants it so I do the same and he just takes off. Didn't stand a chance after 60mph. I'm guessing it was a manual due to the car lurching every once and awhile but I'm not positive.
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if your sig is right and your running 13s at 102, you should hang really nicely with the new Stang GT's... they only trap 102-105ish and run mid 13's on average with a few dipping lower 13's but thats just the launch.
from a roll both cars seem to have the same power as the trap speeds are close
and anything can happen. i ran a C6 vette yesterday and nearly beat the darn thing. had him all the way to 1000 feet. only slowly pulled away the last 300 feet to put 2 cars on me. so unless they can drive really good, those GT's arent that quick, being as fast as a well driven LT1 fbody and a tad quicker than the older 99-04 GT's it replaced. alot of those guys are in the low low 14's at 99mph
from a roll both cars seem to have the same power as the trap speeds are close
and anything can happen. i ran a C6 vette yesterday and nearly beat the darn thing. had him all the way to 1000 feet. only slowly pulled away the last 300 feet to put 2 cars on me. so unless they can drive really good, those GT's arent that quick, being as fast as a well driven LT1 fbody and a tad quicker than the older 99-04 GT's it replaced. alot of those guys are in the low low 14's at 99mph
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no this was in my slower 92mph car.. but we are at higher elevation (usually 3000-5000 air density) but still. the 98-04 GTs get 96mph up here... most likely just a case of driver skill on her part.
it was fun tho! nice car too
it was fun tho! nice car too
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Good kill. I took a 05 Cobra at the track a couple of weeks ago. Got him off the line pretty good(Love that TPI) and held on for the win.
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There's no such thing as an 05 Cobra. You may be speaking of the S/C 03-04 Cobras. Previous body style, IRS rear, usually pretty nasty, yeah they are no joke at all and with a solid rear swap and pulley, Ive seen one hit 11's.....I watch my *** with those cars indeed.
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I was transporting one (2003, I think) for a company I used to work for and I had trouble pulling off the line without spinning out or snapping my head back.
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i raced a new gt and beat it
i raced a new gt some lady was drivieng it she thoguth she could just fly by. so when i saw her coming i slowed down and wated for her. the i go her at the light. she beat me offf the line then i shifted to 2ed gear and that was the end of it i just took over and beat it
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Originally posted by TBI92Camaro
There's no such thing as an 05 Cobra. You may be speaking of the S/C 03-04 Cobras. Previous body style, IRS rear, usually pretty nasty, yeah they are no joke at all and with a solid rear swap and pulley, Ive seen one hit 11's.....I watch my *** with those cars indeed.
There's no such thing as an 05 Cobra. You may be speaking of the S/C 03-04 Cobras. Previous body style, IRS rear, usually pretty nasty, yeah they are no joke at all and with a solid rear swap and pulley, Ive seen one hit 11's.....I watch my *** with those cars indeed.
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there are several versions of the 05 GT by Roush, Saleen, etc.... that are very capable runners. nothing outstanding yet but some good numbers from that 3 valve.
new 07 shelby is gonna be one decent car carrying on the legacy of the 03-04 cars that are just amazing to mod. so fast...... 12.5's stock with drag radials
new 07 shelby is gonna be one decent car carrying on the legacy of the 03-04 cars that are just amazing to mod. so fast...... 12.5's stock with drag radials
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You guys are probably right. It may well have been a 04. It was yellow and supercharged. It just looked new and I assumed it was an 05. Allen
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Originally posted by Orr89RocZ
there are several versions of the 05 GT by Roush, Saleen, etc.... that are very capable runners. nothing outstanding yet but some good numbers from that 3 valve.
new 07 shelby is gonna be one decent car carrying on the legacy of the 03-04 cars that are just amazing to mod. so fast...... 12.5's stock with drag radials
there are several versions of the 05 GT by Roush, Saleen, etc.... that are very capable runners. nothing outstanding yet but some good numbers from that 3 valve.
new 07 shelby is gonna be one decent car carrying on the legacy of the 03-04 cars that are just amazing to mod. so fast...... 12.5's stock with drag radials
oh and that is not even including the extreme which hasn't been tested yet
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its not that they arent outstanding, its just not that impressive to me. a guy has a 99-04 roush stage III stang, and its only putting out 370 hp...not at the wheels
all that money for just 370 hp?? its a hella sweet ride but just not worth the money. most of these new 05 GT tuners are just making 400hp NA or less which aint bad at all, just not that impressive. i am a LS1 guy so when stangs are barely making it into the 12's with alot of mods, it kinda is dissappointing
the cobras can make 450 at the WHEELS with just some tuning and a new sc pulley. thats more impressive, although it does have the blower which produces power more easily.
all that money for just 370 hp?? its a hella sweet ride but just not worth the money. most of these new 05 GT tuners are just making 400hp NA or less which aint bad at all, just not that impressive. i am a LS1 guy so when stangs are barely making it into the 12's with alot of mods, it kinda is dissappointing
the cobras can make 450 at the WHEELS with just some tuning and a new sc pulley. thats more impressive, although it does have the blower which produces power more easily.
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That's why I'm gonna build a 383.
You can easily get 400 atthe crank if you build it properly. Nitrous on top of that & a turbo makes Jack a something something...
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Originally posted by Orr89RocZ
its not that they arent outstanding, its just not that impressive to me. a guy has a 99-04 roush stage III stang, and its only putting out 370 hp...not at the wheels
all that money for just 370 hp?? its a hella sweet ride but just not worth the money. most of these new 05 GT tuners are just making 400hp NA or less which aint bad at all, just not that impressive. i am a LS1 guy so when stangs are barely making it into the 12's with alot of mods, it kinda is dissappointing
the cobras can make 450 at the WHEELS with just some tuning and a new sc pulley. thats more impressive, although it does have the blower which produces power more easily.
its not that they arent outstanding, its just not that impressive to me. a guy has a 99-04 roush stage III stang, and its only putting out 370 hp...not at the wheels
all that money for just 370 hp?? its a hella sweet ride but just not worth the money. most of these new 05 GT tuners are just making 400hp NA or less which aint bad at all, just not that impressive. i am a LS1 guy so when stangs are barely making it into the 12's with alot of mods, it kinda is dissappointing
the cobras can make 450 at the WHEELS with just some tuning and a new sc pulley. thats more impressive, although it does have the blower which produces power more easily.
BTW, the cobra you are referring to, is that a 03-04 or a new one? Because if you are only making 450 at teh wheels with bolt-ons, you should be shot and the car given to me

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i saw on the cover of a magazine of a new 05 stang GT and it said 400hp N/A, and 11 second slips.... so i assume you can get some decent power out of them. not sure if it was a specific tuner, but it had 400 hp. most of the saleen roush steeda cars of past times have had less than 400hp or around that.
and that 450 rwhp cobra was just a example of what they can do for the 03-04. easy 450 rwhp with just pulley swap and some bolt ons. more can be made but between 450-500 rwhp seems to be the average for alot of guys running cobras. any more than that requires either ported stock blower or a KB blowzilla LOL
the new cobra should be about the same--500 rwhp shouldnt be that hard to achieve, but time will tell when they come out.
and that 450 rwhp cobra was just a example of what they can do for the 03-04. easy 450 rwhp with just pulley swap and some bolt ons. more can be made but between 450-500 rwhp seems to be the average for alot of guys running cobras. any more than that requires either ported stock blower or a KB blowzilla LOL
the new cobra should be about the same--500 rwhp shouldnt be that hard to achieve, but time will tell when they come out.
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Originally posted by Orr89RocZ
i saw on the cover of a magazine of a new 05 stang GT and it said 400hp N/A, and 11 second slips.... so i assume you can get some decent power out of them. not sure if it was a specific tuner, but it had 400 hp. most of the saleen roush steeda cars of past times have had less than 400hp or around that.
and that 450 rwhp cobra was just a example of what they can do for the 03-04. easy 450 rwhp with just pulley swap and some bolt ons. more can be made but between 450-500 rwhp seems to be the average for alot of guys running cobras. any more than that requires either ported stock blower or a KB blowzilla LOL
the new cobra should be about the same--500 rwhp shouldnt be that hard to achieve, but time will tell when they come out.
i saw on the cover of a magazine of a new 05 stang GT and it said 400hp N/A, and 11 second slips.... so i assume you can get some decent power out of them. not sure if it was a specific tuner, but it had 400 hp. most of the saleen roush steeda cars of past times have had less than 400hp or around that.
and that 450 rwhp cobra was just a example of what they can do for the 03-04. easy 450 rwhp with just pulley swap and some bolt ons. more can be made but between 450-500 rwhp seems to be the average for alot of guys running cobras. any more than that requires either ported stock blower or a KB blowzilla LOL
the new cobra should be about the same--500 rwhp shouldnt be that hard to achieve, but time will tell when they come out.

for the new cobra, 500 horses is about what it makes stock (i think it makes either 500 or 550, can't remember) and thats with a blown 5.4 - couple that extra displacement with a bigger blower AND the fact that they aren't using a IRS anymore (all the 03-04 cobras break them like nothing once built up)... this is a car where 700+ will be achieved with pullies, bolt-ons, and a good tune
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hell yeah thats impressive, but the new cobra is rated at 450 hp. i have the hot rod magazine here with the article in it. 450 hp is nice tho
the magazine i saw was at Pep boys while i was waiting in line.
the magazine i saw was at Pep boys while i was waiting in line.
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