2 Race Matchups
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From: Wayne NJ
Car: 1988 Red IROC-Z
Engine: 305 TPI V8
Transmission: Borg Warner T5
Axle/Gears: 3.23
2 Race Matchups
I have 2 friends that want to race My IROC.
My Car:
1988 IROC
305 TPI
68,000
4 spd auto
Muffler Removed, Full tune up done last week.
Posi Rear
Oponent 1:
2002 Ford Focus hatchback
5spd Tranny
bone stock performance wise
rims and huge sound system (just extra weight if you ask me)
I think I got this one by quite a bit.
Oponent 2:
2004 Mazda RX8
5 spd
completly stock.
Not sure If I can take the RX8.
My Car:
1988 IROC
305 TPI
68,000
4 spd auto
Muffler Removed, Full tune up done last week.
Posi Rear
Oponent 1:
2002 Ford Focus hatchback
5spd Tranny
bone stock performance wise
rims and huge sound system (just extra weight if you ask me)
I think I got this one by quite a bit.
Oponent 2:
2004 Mazda RX8
5 spd
completly stock.
Not sure If I can take the RX8.
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From: Goldsboro, NC
Car: 89 GTA
Engine: 350 TPI L98
You'll kill the focus.
The RX8 on the other hand is a different story. Its gonna beat you from a roll def. and if the guy is anywhere near good at driving that 6 speed (not 5 speed) you're not gonna win that either. The only chance you have is if you're friend is a really crappy driver. That little car puts out 230 plus HP(although the torque isnt too great). Thats a pretty good power to weight ratio.
Im pretty sure a 350 tpi could beat him from a stop and maybe hang with him off of a roll.
Dont feel bad if you do lose to the RX8 tho, those things are tough little cars. Just get out there and drive the hell out of it and see what you can do.
Good luck and let us know the results
The RX8 on the other hand is a different story. Its gonna beat you from a roll def. and if the guy is anywhere near good at driving that 6 speed (not 5 speed) you're not gonna win that either. The only chance you have is if you're friend is a really crappy driver. That little car puts out 230 plus HP(although the torque isnt too great). Thats a pretty good power to weight ratio.
Im pretty sure a 350 tpi could beat him from a stop and maybe hang with him off of a roll.
Dont feel bad if you do lose to the RX8 tho, those things are tough little cars. Just get out there and drive the hell out of it and see what you can do.
Good luck and let us know the results
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From: LaGrange (10min from Poughkeepsie), NY
Car: 1992 Camaro RS - not real slow anymore...
Engine: SPDC 360 MAF EFI /w a Holley Stealth Ram
Transmission: T5 untill it blows up from to much torque
Axle/Gears: Ford 9" /w auburn pro & 3.89's
That focus should run a high 15's at around 90MPH. The RX8 should easily be able to run a low 14's @ 95MPH. You on the other hand are capable of running a low to mid 15's most likely at around 90 also. My guess? You're definetely going to walk all over the focus. On the other hand, don't expect the RX8 to beat you by at least 2 bus lengths. You will out launch the RX8, but he'll pass you when you are in 2nd guaranteed.
Last edited by Dirtbik3r; Jun 29, 2005 at 11:27 PM.
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Car: 1988 Red IROC-Z
Engine: 305 TPI V8
Transmission: Borg Warner T5
Axle/Gears: 3.23
Yea I figured Id kill the focus, can't wait to shut him up. I think I'll go up against the RX8 just for the fun of it. Not quite sure how well he can drive stick, so I might have a slight chance.
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From: LaGrange (10min from Poughkeepsie), NY
Car: 1992 Camaro RS - not real slow anymore...
Engine: SPDC 360 MAF EFI /w a Holley Stealth Ram
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Originally posted by Mikerace15
Yea I figured Id kill the focus, can't wait to shut him up. I think I'll go up against the RX8 just for the fun of it. Not quite sure how well he can drive stick, so I might have a slight chance.
Yea I figured Id kill the focus, can't wait to shut him up. I think I'll go up against the RX8 just for the fun of it. Not quite sure how well he can drive stick, so I might have a slight chance.
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From: Goldsboro, NC
Car: 89 GTA
Engine: 350 TPI L98
Originally posted by Dirtbik3r
Even if the driver of the RX8 is a poor driver, you have a 305, not a 350. If he screws up his launch, he will pass you top end where your TPI chokes up.
Even if the driver of the RX8 is a poor driver, you have a 305, not a 350. If he screws up his launch, he will pass you top end where your TPI chokes up.
Just try to make the race as short as you can. The shorter the race, the better your chances
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Car: 89 GTA
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Originally posted by Dirtbik3r
Even if the driver of the RX8 is a poor driver, you have a 305, not a 350. If he screws up his launch, he will pass you top end where your TPI chokes up.
Even if the driver of the RX8 is a poor driver, you have a 305, not a 350. If he screws up his launch, he will pass you top end where your TPI chokes up.
Just try to make the race as short as you can. The shorter the race, the better your chances
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From: Western NY
Car: 2007 Saturn Sky Redline
Engine: 2.0 turbo
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Originally posted by sasser43
Just try to make the race as short as you can. The shorter the race, the better your chances
Just try to make the race as short as you can. The shorter the race, the better your chances
Originally posted by Dirtbik3r
That focus should run a high 15's at around 90MPH.
That focus should run a high 15's at around 90MPH.
An SVT maybe, but certainly not a regular Zetec car.And like said before, run from a stop with the RX-8. They make **** for torque, and need a clutch dump up around 5000rpm with lots of wheelspin to avoid bogging off the line. Anything less than a high rpm clutch dump will result in a weak launch. By the time you reach 60, he'll be gaining on you. So don't go too far into 3rd gear, and get enough in 1st to hold his top end charge off.
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Car: '72 Chevy Nova
Engine: Solid roller 355
Transmission: TH350
Axle/Gears: 8.5" 10-bolt 3.73 Posi
You'll rape the focus 6 ways from sunday. I think the only thirdgen that would have a problem with a focus (besides a sixer) is an LG4 lol.
The RX-8 is a different story. They're a tough little car. Like the last poster said, take him from a dig. You've got way better torque and he has to do some serious dumping to launch halfways decent.
Do the free mods before you run too, just for a few extra ponies. Every little bit can't hurt.
Do avoid racing the RX-8 from a roll though.
The RX-8 is a different story. They're a tough little car. Like the last poster said, take him from a dig. You've got way better torque and he has to do some serious dumping to launch halfways decent.
Do the free mods before you run too, just for a few extra ponies. Every little bit can't hurt.
Do avoid racing the RX-8 from a roll though.
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Car: 89' Iroc-Z G92
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yeah with the RX-8 run the 1/8 because even if he passes you its still close. if your a manual 305 the 1/4 would be a tight race, and the lauch would have to be perfect but you should win...ie cam that sucker
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Originally posted by DevilsAddvocate
"lets race from a roll like italians"
who even races from a roll, do you people foot race from a jog? rediculous anyways good luck
and urban hunter, where you from in the bay?
"lets race from a roll like italians"
who even races from a roll, do you people foot race from a jog? rediculous anyways good luckand urban hunter, where you from in the bay?
I'm in Concord, but have several friends in Pinole/Richmond/El Cerrito and am out your way constantly. Check out the west coast forums for the dyno day coming up later this month!
Originally posted by DevilsAddvocate
who even races from a roll,
who even races from a roll,
And traffic lights are there for a reason, there is a lot of traffic to control. And although I'm not condoning street racing, running from a roll in non-congested areas is safer than running around in the city. Originally posted by Marc 85Z28
Plenty, and in fact I'd dare to say most. If I'm on the highway and pull up next to another car and he's game, we're sure as hell not going to stop on a highway to set up a race
And traffic lights are there for a reason, there is a lot of traffic to control. And although I'm not condoning street racing, running from a roll in non-congested areas is safer than running around in the city.
Plenty, and in fact I'd dare to say most. If I'm on the highway and pull up next to another car and he's game, we're sure as hell not going to stop on a highway to set up a race
And traffic lights are there for a reason, there is a lot of traffic to control. And although I'm not condoning street racing, running from a roll in non-congested areas is safer than running around in the city. Originally posted by urbanhunter44
foot race from a jog haha
Check out the west coast forums for the dyno day coming up later this month!
foot race from a jog haha
Check out the west coast forums for the dyno day coming up later this month!
Racing from a stop shows who's the better driver. Racing from a roll shows who has the faster car. That's why people race from a roll. Everyone could beat me from a stop, but my car was still faster.
Originally posted by DevilsAddvocate
so who decides how far you race?
so who decides how far you race?
When its obvious who has the quicker car, or the speeds become too high. Get out from under your rock, as you're not running to see who gets to the "end" quicker. It's who can accelerate quicker. That's all.
if your racing on the freeway stop it, its retarded,
Originally posted by Marc 85Z28
When its obvious who has the quicker car, or the speeds become too high. Get out from under your rock, as you're not running to see who gets to the "end" quicker. It's who can accelerate quicker. That's all.
It is retarded? No ****! I'll stop right away!
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When its obvious who has the quicker car, or the speeds become too high. Get out from under your rock, as you're not running to see who gets to the "end" quicker. It's who can accelerate quicker. That's all.
It is retarded? No ****! I'll stop right away!
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