I went out on friday night cause I worked during the day and drove around for at least a solid 2 hours looking for anything modified. I went back to my friends house and then decided to go back out again (we only went out for about an hour the first time) I told my friend Eric that went with me that we would see at least 5 civics 3-4 eclipses and like 2 celicas. We saw all of the cars we thought we would. I did end up meeting a fellow thirdgen owner from appleton. He has an 89 2.8 V6. We dropped his car off and his buddy and him joined us in the 83. We went out back around to the college avenue area (the very busy area of appleton where anyone with something modded goes) Thats when I first saw the subaru. It had that dumb hood scoop and I heard him attempt to rev his engine at me. We went all the way down to the other side of college and thats when his buddy with the Mazda started to back him up. The weird thing is they had Michigan plates, im just curious if people travel that far to mess with people or were just visiting.

Ok so they box me in and im stuck behind them both. I slam it into second and head for the right shoulder and pass them both. They come back strong, but I realized that the Subaru would only try and intiate me if he had his turbo spooled. This subaru had no badges and was grey. I did hear his BOV on several occasions and quite honestly it sounded like a little piggy. The Mazda was blue and had dvd screens in the backseat. We got right around the mall area and we hit some nice speeds. They tried to pull up to me and I just walked away from them both, it was like they were standing still. This is the real killer right here though. Once we got out on the strip that leads to the airport we hit speeds I would imagine in excess of 100. Then of course I try and hit 5th gear and it won't go in. I yelled and cursed a few times and then just slid back into 4th. We went all the way down to the end and took a right and they build their steam (cause they had turbos) and do the typical r1ce blowby . Then I went down Wisconsin ave followed them more and I was almost positive I burned my clutch or pressure plate cause something didn't smell right. It did go back after awhile but I am glad I wounded my car when I was pushing it racing and not doing something dumb. I feel really proud of myself for not letting some guys probably 5-8 years older think they can beat on some old american muscle. Cause Im only 20. I was really satisfied that the trannny and clutch still worked cause I didn't feel like getting towed home. Now it feels like it doesn't engage when i put it in gear and takes time to catch the tranny. It works and will probably promote me to slow down. Just wanted to share.
Input?

 

You should do some research on turbos. I'm so sick of reading a bunch of made up B.S. about peoples misinterpretations of how you drive a turbo car. It's no different than you'd drive any other car. That's my input.

 

Well thats how they drove I was there. You were not.

 

Amen brother. A regular 'ol 350 TPI would be easy for my little r1ceburning 4-banger.

Tim

 

you're trying to say you walked on a Subaru WRX (possible STI) which is AWD and turbo, from a roll??

unless you are pushing more than 280rwhp... not fly wheel.. you're full of it...

WRX turbo's(the old style with bug eyes) have 227hp

the STI's are MEAN.. 276hp from factory.. a single 3" exhaust will net them 300hp.. i know this.. because my best friend and neighbor has 2 Impreza's

an 02 WRX and an 05 STI.. he road races with both of them.. the 02 is a full race motor that laid down 327rwhp on a dyno pack, the STI (which is his daily driver, has only a 3" system, COBB tuning, and suspension) put down 268rwhp.. i was at shop when their club had a dyno day..

these cars are very quick from a dig, and a roll.. they earn my respect, especially the way they handle.

 

STI's aren't the typical r i c e r, in fact thier not r i c e at all as far as im concerned. They have a very powerful turbo and awd that will smoke 90% of the v8 cars out there. So if you beat him, he started from 3rd gear or he accually wasn't racing.

 

I've only driven a few boosted cars, but yeah that's the way I see it.. the only time you would drive it differently is probably launching it.. but what do i know, I just a naturally aspirated car

 

Your "only" 20, congrats, I know 20 year olds with 10 second cars...

As far as the race sounds like BS, unless you spell out a mod list for a 12 second combo. The STIs are mid 13 second cars on average and with the way you claim to walk him, you would have a 12 second car. Now if he had a regular WRX hes probably in the low 14s, high 13s, which again would make you have a 12 second car (after all you had 3 people in it and a burnt clutch).

Believe what you may, either made up, the other drivers are retarded or there was no race, only you going fast!

 

Actually, STIs come with 300hp and 300tq. An exhaust and EM pushes those figures to 350hp and 380tq (conservative). Tuners are getting much better with these cars and one guy is regularly getting his customers 300+ hp at the wheels. This equates to about 375 rated horsepower.

The 276 you quoted is for the mitsubishi EVO.

Tim

 

The only one not BENCH racing here is 83BlackBeauty.

Why is it so unbelievable that a 355 TPI with a manual could beat one of these stock r1ce boxes?

You need to realize that on the street anything is possible. Your $40,000+ high strung import just might not be as quick as the $2500 naturally aspirated 20 year old V8 sitting next to you.

83BlackBeauty - Nice race bro. Keep it up!!

 

It's possible........ that the STI wasn't racing.

 

rofl. Why? How many of us have owned both a stock TPI, a modified TPI, and "one of these stock r1ce boxes"? Let me help you with that .... not you. You have no basis to make a judgement. My STI will eat a stock 350 TPI for breakfast and spit it out due to the taste. Remember now, I had a stock 350 TPI. That TPI needs a lot of bolt ons to be competitive.

Truth is ... I think he was racing a stock WRX ... not an STI. Different story there. A 350 TPI can beat a stock WRX (IMHO) from a low MPH roll pretty easily. They only put down 165 to the wheels. However, add full exhaust and EM to a WRX and we're looking at 220 to the wheels. That is when it starts to get interesting

Tim

 

Yeah, I don't know how that STi even got brought up. I thought it was pretty obvious that it was just a WRX. I like how he called the hood scope dumb, as if there wasn't a top mount intercooler sitting under it or something.

 

I know its hard to see cars with half the amount of cylinders and displacement ramp on our rear drive V8's but its becoming a norm now. If you don't have some performance work on your 20 year old thirdgen, prepare to be humiliated by a lot of "new" cars out there, thats just the way it is....no hiding from reality.

 

seems EVERY time a WRX race is mentioned on this board, the STI version is brought up
so you need to OWN both to make a judgement, huh? seeing them run at the track, and having friends that own and modify them isnt enough to comment on them i guess

 

because some morons cant tell the difference between the WRX and STI... they just see an im port and think " oh its just r1ce"