Has anyone with a modded third gen gone up aganist one of these bad boys?. I know a guy in town that has one, it seems very quick. He had the tires spinning pretty hard threw third gear.

 

through third gear? Doubtful..... A guy in my town raced me from 15 30 and i won with a l03 camaro after that i gave up. Basically all that proved was the fact that i can hook at 15-30mph better than him but, i'll take it....

He passed me while i was at full throttle later down the road at around 1/2 throttle in his car though so being as big and heavy as they are i gave him mad props.

 

He spun first and second and chirped third is what I meant to say. You beat him with an l03? I wouldnt think that would be possible.

 

i ran one a 2005 on a visit to the track about 5miles before we got there lol. he pulled about 2-3 cars on me from 0-100. when we got to the track he ran a 13.6?@103. he also had intake and exhaust. i dunno i think arizona's sucky gas and air the problem with times.

 

i didn't say i beat him lol, i said i won from 15-30mph then i pretty much gave up lol. He woulda killed me with ease as i stated. It was either a sloppy driver or someone who was slipping the clutch. All i know is he was wound out like crazy..... Definetly had his matted when i did. He had been trying to race me multiple times so i figured what the heck. Great low 1st gear in the 700r4 kept me ahead for about 10-15 mph lol.

 

Ya I know. I thought that was strange beacuse those things cook off the line and into the mid range. As you said it could have been driver error.

 

They should run the same times, if not a little better, than a M6 LS1 f-body. That means 106mph traps and low 13's should be the norm. However, like all Gen III and IV motors they scream with mods. I am such a fan of the new GTO's.

 

I think the new 05 GTOs are capable of running high 12's in cool air. The 04's are very quick as well and should run in the low 13's as you said. Motor Trend or Car and Driver should have a shootout between an 02 WS6 or SS vs an 05 GTO. I think that would be a pretty good match up.

 

I am sure high 12's will be acheived by someone but it will not be the norm. The LS2 makes good power but the goat is heavier than any f-body (3800+ lbs).


GM high tech performance flog of the '05 GTO

 

And the temps were similar to last year's GTO test, just under 90 degrees.


I am pretty sure in 60 degree weather a high 12's would be possible. Put some radials on that thing

 

In this january's gm high tech performance ran a bone stock ls2 05 gto with factory tune and factory tires with a 100 shot and ran it against a 2001 t/a with airlid, maf, full exhaust, f.a.s.t. intake and a 125 shot. The gto ran a 12.52 at 114.08 and the t/a ran a 12.85 at 117.04. Hope this helps those ls2's really scream in that gto imagine one of those in our cars

 

We had a couple nice days, several weeks back and I happened upon a '04 GTO. He was making a right so I followed. As I pulled along side, he got into it so I followed suite. We were side by side until around 60 MPH. I was coming up on traffic in my lane and had to back off. He continued on to 90 or so. I caught up to him at the next light to see what mods he had and found out it was a M6 car with long tubes and Corsa cat-back. Turns out the guy works for Corsa and also has a low mileage '91 Camaro B4C/1LE. Good thing we weren't on the highway... I would have been owned bad!!! The combination of long tubes and Corsa cat-back sounded pretty damn good too!

 

Blu91Z28, I read the mods on your car domain page. I think you would see some pretty good gains by getting some good high flow runners along with a less restrictive intake manifold. You may even see a low 13. I pretty much have a full bolton 89 350 that runs 13.5's. Since your car is a 91 it is faster to begin with.

 

Funny you should mention that! I just bought some AS&M runners and a TPIS Big Mouth base port matched to the runners. I'm also adding a 2,500 stall Vigilante and a built 4L60. I'll be a couple hundred pounds lighter this year as well.

 

i got a ride in an '04 goat once....it moved pretty decent but you can just feel the weight around you

 

Let me know what you run once you get those mods in.

 

04 goats have same power as the Ls1 fbodies but are significantly heavier... 200lbs more

they only trap 103 up to 105 in the cold. mid lower 13's if you can control the wheel hop. higher 13's for mediocre drivers

 

I saw a couple of them run up here at our track and the drivers had to put some major abuse to the T-56 in order to row dem goats into the high 13's...5800ft elev. respects no car.

 

I want to race one. Just to see what would happen. To be like my 10,000 doller car will beat your 30,000 doller car lol. Or whatever they go for

 

89Iroc, have you done anything to your L98?

 

Indeed I do. Check out the site in the sig.......

 

thats quite a list of mods there! and a very clean iroc indeed!!

 

Thanks, I try to keep it looking better than the avg third gen.

 

we can only do our part to save the reputation of these cars.

 

Ya, The L98 engine is a really good engine when you get the restrictive stock bolt ons off. I usually keep the rep up around here. Ive beated two 99-04 GTs, an LT1 car, and a 300C. Going to try a 95 Vette soon. Going to need a little luck though lol

 

for what it's worth........

2 weeks ago i was out looking around and ran accross what i think was a new gto (it was a gto just don't know if it was new)with dealer tags on the car. after watchin whoever was driving pull away pretty hard from a stop light passing other cars i figured why not and managed to get to it at the next light.
(it was dark and that is why i can't give you all the details)

anyway the light turns green just about the time i get stopped so i started to roll matching the speed of the gto which was acclerating pretty hard put no where near full on.

next, i see the gto front end start to jump up BIG time so i dropped the hammer on the ol' girl and started pulling away. don't get me wrong it wasn't all that easy.

anway this was for about a block from about 10 to about 50(?). from some of the other stuff i have run the car was pretty darn fast. would have been fun to line up "for real" and see how it went but they seem to loose interest after that. i figured they were probably wondering what was wrong with the car. i've been chucklin about it and wondering if they took it back to the dealer the next day to have it checked out.

we all know 3rd gens are suppose to be easy. especially when the look bone stock.

 

Well By the summer I should be running with the stock ls1 cars. So third gens still have some ***** to them.

 

The very first pass with mine at 600 miles was a wheel hopping 13.6@103. After a few more trips to the track and about another 600 miles, I got that down to 13.25@105 still on a crappy 1.95. Stock tires are terrible, remind me of gatorbacks. Had I not started modding after that, I know I could've gotten a 13.1x out of my stock GTO. There have been others to get 13.1 also.

There have been bone stock '05's in the 12's also. Very hard with the stock brick tires. The ones with drag radials only are doing 12.6-.7. Not too shabby for a stock car with tires.

They are very capable cars. They do handle quite well for the weight, about as good as a F-Body but not a WS6 or 1LE car.

 

Thats what I like to hear. Keep up the good job man!