Well at the moment i seem to be thirdgen-less.

I get my iroc in 3 months, 27 days. (not like im counting or anything)

Sadly, my beloved 'Bird met its end, or more specifically, the back end of a dodge neon, (***** girlfriend ) But i suppose shes a keeper, because for valentines day she gave me a 2002 Suzuki GSX-R 750 (besides being a die-hard f-body fanatic, i also have a slight fetish for two-wheeled toys)

Anyway, i love my bike. It scares the crap out of me everytime i sit on it and i have the power to go from 10mph to 110mph in about half a second. It is an adrenalene rush like no car can ever match, and i highly suggest all of you look into the two-wheeled side of imports.

Heres the question, do any of you out there feel confident enough to line up next to a bike? This isnt a challange, i just want to know if it can be done. Have any of you ever raced a bike? Ever beat a bike? I know its a whole different ball game when you talk car vs. bike but if you had a car that could beat a bike, or even hang with it, it would be one bad *****..... Eventually i want to build an iroc that can rival my bike. So lets start the disscussion, lets hear about all of your bike encounters.......

Here ill start, i was riding to work this morning and a 04 Z06 pulled up next to me on the interstate. He looked at me and gave me a thumbs up (which about made me cry with joy that finally a Z06 owner was complimenting my ride!). He dropped a gear and punched it, i just rolled on the throttle in 4th gear. We hung pretty close for about 40yrds, then it was just headlights getting smaller in my rearview mirror....

 

I personally cant hang with the jap bikes, but know of a good amount of cars that have taken them down. A few of my friends only race bikes and usually end up winning the races. Granted these cars have a lot of money and power, but it is something impressive to be beating up on some high end crotch rockets (I mean that nicely too)!

Also a few of my friends have GSXs and R6s, and I must say although a ton of fun, I doubt Id own one!

 

I just honestly dont have enough power to race a bike.. There are a few here that could,, even a 305 from what I have seen in timeslips... There is another thread in this forum about having "the stones to race a bike"... But personally, I find racing cars espeically on the streets to be dangerous.. I love sportster harley's but I could never own one..

 

I haven't but I do know someone that can beat stock Busa's and stock R1's in freeway races from a 80mph roll. His car is a MK4 Supra single turbo highly modified. I think some of it might have to do with our freeway here, not alot of portions are very long and straight like over on the mainland. But even then, on a 2-3 mile straight they race and my friend with the Supra pulls them. They got it on video and stuff, and they all raced 3 times. I think it all comes down to power to weight ratio.

 

On long straights it comes down to areo dynamics at higher speeds the way I understand it.

 

bolt on new Z06 will take on the smaller bikes and earlier models

i raced a 91 600cc something.. sounded very mean. he said it ran 13.0 at the track.. so they aint that fast those earlier small bikes

i was in front and he followed me. on the back straight i took it from about 45mph all the way to 115-120ish and he was with me, but he said he was peggin 3rd and i was pulling on him. but he had 3 more gears left he said LOL he was impressed on how my car ran.. and its not even that fast.

so earlier bikes can be beaten pretty easily. the newer smaller 600's arent too bad either.. the very new ones are very fast but there are plenty of streetable cars that can run with and take them down 600's. usually have to go pretty high speeds to start to pull bigger bikes as they hit aero drag

 

Older bikes maybe...new bikes are retarded fast. In a quarter mile, youd be hard pressed to beat a GSXR/CBR/R6/ZX6R, etc. Basically, their stock 600 bike would stomp any car that isnt highly modified unless the rider is a squid. Top end the car, especially our third gens, have an advantage in the aerodynamics. Newer bikes are fixing this some, but the wind after 100mph starts exponetially dragging on the bike. And they dont have gobs of torque to respond to the added drag...just my take on the whole thing though. I ride a bike too, but I dont think Id even care to race against a car, or anything for that matter because one mistake on either drivers part might put you in an early grave...

 

Don't newer Gixxer 6's and R6's do 10's? My cousin and bro have those bikes and always preach how f'en fast they are. But I agree, you need serious power to take one on.

 

newer ones are definately alot faster than older 600s. they can do 10's with a good rider. most at my track are about low 11's tho. the liter bikes are 9-10's.

 

I raced my friends 96 Katana with exhaust and jetted. He gave me a headstart from a stop. I took off and he waited til i got under the street light before he chased me down. He never caught up to me by 80 but he was coming fast. Hes pretty impressed with how my car runs. I know i cant beat those bikes and i wont race any other than his just for fun but i havent lost to a harley yet. Those things are slow. I need at least 200 more hp before i would try and take a sport bike seriously.

 

Even my lowly Suzuki SV 650S w/ less then 70 HP and like 40 ft/lbs of torque will womp any of my Thirdgens and with a descent driver would beat my 4th gen LS1. Bike > Car when it comes to flat out acceleration .

 

I have a Honda 954RR..... that makes the vette, TA any any other car feel like a slug.. you really cant touch a Liter bike, unless your car is a monster on the track / bairly streetable.... but In the morning when its clold and raining... man you dont care that the bike is faster, do you
BTW katana's suck, they are SO SLOW!!

 

Can-of-Tuna :-D

 

there's a guy here with a blown 396 LT1 stroker motor, most bikes don't give him a problem.

to run a bike to it's full potential you need a hell of a rider on it, most people can't do it. Just go to the race track and watch some bikes run, most of them **** up. Hell I beat a bike with my '97 because the guy sucked.. and my car obviously isn't going to beat a low 11 sec bike with a competant rider..

 

Pshcyo_Camaro's dad's car will blow that car's Dixie Heart AWAY!

 

One of the local guys plays with Busa's. It's a Dodge Colt with a 4g63 swap. He runs 10.50's @ 148. I just mess with the Harleys.

 

most bikes run uper 10's stock with a little mod the gsx1000 can do 210 u can take the bikes if u got a pretty quick car but i known bikes with 400hp on a bike that wieghs 500pounds with the rider they r pretty quick

 

psycho camaro's dad's car scares me
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Harleys are teh slow. I like when the tough biker guys try to punch it and cut me off

 

Those HD V-Rods are 11 second bikes. IMO, that's still pretty fast. I mean, only being a V-twin and not revving to 20k rpms like the crotch rockets, that's pretty cool.

 

yeah but the v twin is 1000-1300cc thouse crouch rokets 600 750 1300 1000 with four cylders its really about displacement

 

*shakes head*

 

Well i got a '02 750 so unless youre on a liter bike or in a pro-street car all youre going to see is my taillights

If i could keep my front wheel down i would be even faster


BTW- before yall rag on me and call me stupid and squid-ish, keep in mind i always ride with protective gear, i never push the bike to its limit, and i have been riding sportbikes since i was 14. Ive been down twice, and have some lingering injuries as a result of it. I know what its like to crash, i know what road rash feels like (or more importantly, what peroxide feels like on fresh road rash). Spare me your horror stories, dont turn this into a flame war.

 

Okay, so harley makes one quick bike...

 

I used to have a 300+ horse GSXR-1000, that didn't lose to many bikes but was beat by a select few cars. The problem with a bike is lack of rear tire. Just think about how much rubber a car on slicks has on the ground compared to a bike. As far as I know the fastest bikes around are only running high 7s or low 8s. If we started from a rolling 30 mph start, it would have been no match. Atleast I can say of the 3 cars 2 were first gen fbodys, and the third was a vette. Never lost to a F*rd on it.

 

It all depends how you want to race a bike. From a dead stop, the car will generally launch faster than the bike. So if you can get away from the bike quick enough you may beat it to the next redlight. However, from a 30-40mph roll it's a different ballgame. The bikes power to weight ratio takes over.
I've raced a few friends with high end cars (C5 Z06, Viper, Modena) and I have yet to lose to a street driven car from a 40mph roll. Not that I've raced extensively nor am I the fastest around. And I'm sure there are some heavily modified cars out there that are quicker. But stock for stock, mod for mod, it's very hard to beat a bike.

(and for the record... I'm always wearing gear "head to toe". And the afore mentioned races were held on a closed roadway)

EDIT: I'm riding an '02 Hayabusa, K&N filter, PCIIIusb, and a full Micron pipe.

 

then u have one fast bike even stock lol with your mods even though limited that bike probably flys

 

To those who ride bikes...

They can go "so fast" and be pushed to their limit, but how many riders can handle it? (i.e get a proper launch, shift gears, and get that crotch rocket down the strip/road properly? Like driver error vs. rider error).

 

When i started riding crotch rockets, i was 14. The bike i learned to ride on was a 2000 Yamaha R1 (waaay too big to learn on for most people, esp a 14yr old) But you know what ive learned in 7yrs of riding? A bike is only as fast as you want it to be. A hayabusa can do the speed limit just as easily as a moped can. In the end it all comes down to good judgement and respect for the power of the bike. Now im not saying i do the speed limit everywhere i go, nobody with a GSXR does. But there is a difference between going a little over the speed limit and pushing the bike too far. Sometimes the difference is life or death.

 

i dusted a Hayabusa in my 305tbi.. STOCK

 

Did he know you were trying to race him?

 

Was it parked???

 

no it was on a trailer

 

I stayed with a a ZX6R (prior generation, not 636R) off the bottle up to 130ish. If I had sprayed, it would have been a blowout. I ride a worked (cams, head work, PC, full Micron etc) 929RR, so I can say that my car isn't as fast as my bike...yet.

 

I wonder how a car would do against a BHC-3 502 boss hoss, a bike with a 502 CID V8 has to be pretty quick. Those have full sized car tires on the rear too, or atleast they used to. It weighs 1300 lbs.

 

For 1,300 lbs, I'd rather have a Civic. That must be like sitting on top of a train and trying to lean to turn.


Actually, that's total BS. There is NO WAY it weighs that much. Check your facts and report back please.

 

That bike may weigh 1300 lbs. With a big block chevy in it you are looking at a pure novelty bike and not one that is really set-up properly (the big block engine alone weighs in the neighborhood of 700lbs). Most of those V8 novelty bikes will still get waxed by a GSR or Hayabusa.

 

There is a local blown ZO6....Vs. Gixxer 1000cc's......yea..... but he is like 750rwhp. I would post the vid but I dunno how....pretty cool

 

wonder how a rotary would work?

isn't that what they use on the pro drag bikes something like v8's though?

 

They use big fat turbos I believe.

 

your sig makes me laugh.....the fastest RX-7 I ve ever seen had a chevy motor in it......

 

Thats what their site says it weighs. You can't corner on the older versions of those bikes, you had to go literally like 3mph around turns because the rear wheel was a flat car tire, but the new ones have rounded tires so cornering isnt as hard as you would think.

 

um 1300 lb car on two wheels with minimal contact patch with a what I assume isn't a very good suspension.
I doubt it turns that well

 

there is a 03' Cobra where i live with around 600HP at the wheels that i saw race two bikes from about a 30MPH kick and at about 100 or so one bike was right infront of him and the other was at the cobras rear fender, not sure what kind of bikes, im trying to ask around to see but the Cobras S/C was louder than both bikes im guessing the one behind him was a 600 or 750 and the one right infont was prolly a 1000 but it was sure fun to watch

 

The biggest problem with bikes is that you cant keep the front end down, so except for the drag bikes with wheelie bars you can't launch them to their full potential, also rubber to road contact is low as well. Most people can't control bikes at high speed, sure a busa can go 200+/- but if it is your most likely not on it anymore, (alot of people would have a hard time at 110), wheras a car at the same speed can be controlled by someone with less experience than would be required on the bike.

 

A busa tops out at 193mph stock. (notice here i said "STOCK")

And its really not hard to control a bike at high speed, just get in a "full tuck" (body flat against the tank, helmet right up under the windscreen) and hang on. Ive had my GSXR to 175mph. Plenty left, it was still pulling but it was just creeping at 1mph at a time.....

The biggest danger is making sure you have enough room. A car thats 500yrds in front of you is going to come up really quick on you. (at 170, youre going 100 faster than the car is, so its like the car is sitting still and youre doing 100 right behind it)

Its not hard, it just takes *****....

 

No way. Those bikes have V8s and the jap bikes only have 4 cylinders. You must have mistyped what you meant to say.

 

My friend has a modded 996 superhawk.Just one word.SCARY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

Well no offense, but would you stake your v8 against my 4cyl? Those bikes are literally about 1400lbs. My gsxr is 360 soaking wet. Im not trying to talk up a 4 banger, im just saying that those hot rod bikes are show items....

 

Japanese bikes have light, hot, four bangers, in the end it comes down to power to weight ratio. Also how the power is applied matters, and the V8 bike is an upright riding bike, wheras a busa or a gixxer is flat and streamlined. When I said 200+/- I was referring to the fact a modded bike can go that fast, I missed the part you said about stock, my mistake. Those V8 bikes are show bikes, but they shouldn't be underestimated, it does have a chevy V8 on it. The V8 bikes are two speeds so I don't know how well they run, they could be a slower, but if they have trans built like drag cars are, the two speed may be ok.

 

sry, posted twice.