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Old Sep 17, 2006 | 04:43 PM
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87 TA vs 2003 VW GTI

How would I fare with a GTI, aftermarket replaced turbos and intercooler, CAI and Catback. ABout 275hp

87 TA - Carbed 385 Fast Burn, Hot Cam, TKO600, 9" Rear.
Best time at track was a 11.9 @ 129.
About 425hp - 460tq

Hes talking **** but I wanted to see your opinion.
I think i got him tho

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Old Sep 17, 2006 | 09:30 PM
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I think you definantly have him, put some money on this race lol
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Old Sep 17, 2006 | 09:46 PM
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A 129 trap is good for mid 10s with suspension/tires. What was your 60 foot on that run? You must have spun for days.

His car is probably pretty quick for 275 hp, but you'll still rape him.
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Old Sep 17, 2006 | 09:56 PM
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Old Sep 17, 2006 | 11:00 PM
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130mph and your just hitting the 11's? Something is up there....

You have this one.
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Old Sep 18, 2006 | 10:00 AM
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Car: 87 TA / 87 Firebird
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Im spinning into 3rd cant get too much traction. The tires are only street radials. 60 ft time is horrible.
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Old Sep 18, 2006 | 11:19 AM
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Originally Posted by kelham
How would I fare with a GTI, aftermarket replaced turbos and intercooler, CAI and Catback. ABout 275hp

87 TA - Carbed 385 Fast Burn, Hot Cam, TKO600, 9" Rear.
Best time at track was a 11.9 @ 129.
About 425hp - 460tq

Hes talking **** but I wanted to see your opinion.
I think i got him tho
I am sure you'll get him. If you can find the exact turbo I can give you a reasonably accurate power guess.

I have one at the shop thats around 500whp on "low" boost. (18psi)
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Old Sep 18, 2006 | 02:14 PM
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Originally Posted by kelham
Im spinning into 3rd cant get too much traction. The tires are only street radials. 60 ft time is horrible.
Yeah, that's the problem. Once you get some real tires you'll have no problem hitting an 11.0 and dipping into the 10s with practice.
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Old Sep 18, 2006 | 05:55 PM
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After market turbo and he's only running 275 hp? Sucks to be him. You've got this one.
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Old Sep 18, 2006 | 07:05 PM
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Hmm that doesnt sound bad. My friends GTI made 180 whp on a stock turbo with a bunch of stuff done and since added his front mount, exhaust, bigger turbo and such and I doubt hes at 275 whp, maybe 230. If you mean flywheel then yes 275 sounds like a low boost set up!
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Old Sep 18, 2006 | 08:18 PM
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Originally Posted by stu
After market turbo and he's only running 275 hp? Sucks to be him. You've got this one.
Stock turbo, max is 215whp.
K04, ~230whp
E05 ~245-255whp with tons of torque
GT28R (Not often used) 275-285whp
GT28RS (Very common) 300-350whp

At 350whp, the stock rods start bending.

GT2871 ~350-375whp
GT3071 ~400-450whp
GT35R ~500+

Thats with a stock head and all the misc supporting mods. Also with a stock style computer. Add 15-20% for a ported head. There is many variations with the T series turbos as to power that I dont want to get into. I mostly like working with the water cooled, ball-bearing GT series turbos.
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Old Sep 19, 2006 | 02:31 PM
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Easy Kill with your power. Now you just have to think about how the heck you are going to hook up.

Tim
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Old Sep 22, 2006 | 03:17 AM
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Screw hooking up, give him the holeshot and run him down. He should be a couple SECONDS slower than you and since your times are on street tires you should be able to get close to replicating your track times on the streets. Good luck on this one keep us posted.
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