DSM
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From: Middleboro, MA
Car: 1988 Pontiac trans am/gta
Engine: 350
Transmission: 700r4
Axle/Gears: 3.23's
DSM
Kid is trying to say his car is wicked fast, and i believe its quick but.. is it quick enough to totally destroy my car?
87 formula 350 with a 5 speed swapped in
and a DSM with 14 psi He could run 16 but hes only doing 14
he said hed give me 3 car lengths
what do u guys think
87 formula 350 with a 5 speed swapped in
and a DSM with 14 psi He could run 16 but hes only doing 14
he said hed give me 3 car lengths
what do u guys think
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Car: GTA
Engine: 383 HSR
Transmission: TH-700R4
Axle/Gears: 3.42
Re: DSM
I used to own a DSM. If it is AWD he will murder you. DSM AWD can easily do 12's with very very minor modifications. The 4g63 Motor is very stout and handles alot of abuse. It is the same motor in the Evo's today.
If it is FWD, you will still get whooped, unless he does give you 3 lengths and then you could win.
If it is FWD, you will still get whooped, unless he does give you 3 lengths and then you could win.
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Car: 1988 Pontiac trans am/gta
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Re: DSM
o its AWD, thing is i dont want to get completly destroyed.. lol But i willl probly
o well its all in good fun :S
o well its all in good fun :S
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well if he's running 14 psi he's deff not stock,i'm pretty sure they only run like 9-10 pounds stock.so then that also would lead me to believe he might have a different turbo, injectors, boost controller and other go fast goodies so if i were you, i'd pass on the race...
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Car: 91 Z28
Engine: 5.7 350
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I've owned 2 DSMs..both AWD. The stock boost setting is like 10 psi, 11 to 12 with free mods. They can be made fast for little money. If he has a boost controller and exhaust, I think he will take you. If you guys go from a stop, and you get a good launch and he bogs( easy to do in a AWD car if not launched at the right RPM and clutch slipped correctly) then it will be close. Be very careful with 1st gen DSMs as most are not stock anymore.
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From: Waldorf, MD
Car: 91 Formula, 89 IROC
Engine: LB9, LB9
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Re: DSM
Ok well since my buddy has not posted yet, I will do it for him. He had a l98 iroc with headers, exhaust, free mods, and some small things done to it. I raced his car versus a FWD talon with a built engine running 20 psi of boost. He even had his laptop on the seat. I beat him from a stop and from a rool by as much as 2 cars or more.
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Re: DSM
Originally Posted by nelapse
The 4g63 Motor is very stout and handles alot of abuse.
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Ok well since my buddy has not posted yet, I will do it for him. He had a l98 iroc with headers, exhaust, free mods, and some small things done to it. I raced his car versus a FWD talon with a built engine running 20 psi of boost. He even had his laptop on the seat. I beat him from a stop and from a rool by as much as 2 cars or more.
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Ok, just thought I'd put in my 2 cents. The 1g dsm can run 16 psi safely with only a boost controller and gauge. In theory he should beat you. I'm not saying he will though. Those motors have to be tuned to a T. So unless he has slips from the drag strip there is not telling what that car is running. He's going to jump you off the line. Be patient and use the top end to your advantage.
P.S. I had a 91 eclipse turbo, ask the guy if he needs parts, lol.
P.S. I had a 91 eclipse turbo, ask the guy if he needs parts, lol.
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Re: DSM
Ok, just thought I'd put in my 2 cents. The 1g dsm can run 16 psi safely with only a boost controller and gauge. In theory he should beat you. I'm not saying he will though. Those motors have to be tuned to a T. So unless he has slips from the drag strip there is not telling what that car is running. He's going to jump you off the line. Be patient and use the top end to your advantage.
P.S. I had a 91 eclipse turbo, ask the guy if he needs parts, lol.
P.S. I had a 91 eclipse turbo, ask the guy if he needs parts, lol.
if your in the MA area i could ask, word is he is swapping a motor in at this time to u never know what he could use
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Car: 91 Formula, 89 IROC
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yea but your missing the thing, the one that wants to race is AWD... the car your buddy raced was FWD which means he was prolly spinning every time he started to make any type of boost.. plus you don't need a built motor to run 20psi threw one of those motors, actually just met a guy Friday night at the drags running 24psi threw his 96 eclipse with a stock bottom end... crazy little motors
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Car: 07 Saab, 88 Turbocoupe, 85 XR4Ti
Engine: LP9, 2.3t, 2.3t
Transmission: 6 speed auto, t5, t5
Axle/Gears: ? , 3.55 8.8", 3.64 7.5"
Re: DSM
Ok, just thought I'd put in my 2 cents. The 1g dsm can run 16 psi safely with only a boost controller and gauge. In theory he should beat you. I'm not saying he will though. Those motors have to be tuned to a T. So unless he has slips from the drag strip there is not telling what that car is running. He's going to jump you off the line. Be patient and use the top end to your advantage.
P.S. I had a 91 eclipse turbo, ask the guy if he needs parts, lol.
P.S. I had a 91 eclipse turbo, ask the guy if he needs parts, lol.
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Car: 1989 GTA trans am
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Re: DSM
the old dsm awd cars where crazy you can take the newer turbo manifold put it on then they run down newer evos.buddy of mine works at a mitsubishi dealership and has a older gsx (same thing as a dsm) stock evos cant touch his car with there turbo manifold on his gsx.your in for a wourld of hurt. get some good heads a cam and a exhaust then race also for the love god get some drs\slicks.
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From: southcentral PA
Car: 07 Saab, 88 Turbocoupe, 85 XR4Ti
Engine: LP9, 2.3t, 2.3t
Transmission: 6 speed auto, t5, t5
Axle/Gears: ? , 3.55 8.8", 3.64 7.5"
Re: DSM
the old dsm awd cars where crazy you can take the newer turbo manifold put it on then they run down newer evos.buddy of mine works at a mitsubishi dealership and has a older gsx (same thing as a dsm) stock evos cant touch his car with there turbo manifold on his gsx.your in for a wourld of hurt. get some good heads a cam and a exhaust then race also for the love god get some drs\slicks.
GST= front wheel drive turbo
GS = front wheel drive NA version of the 4g63
RS = Neon motor
DSM = Diamond Star Motors which would just be a mitsubishi product
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