Ok i was coming home from the Eagle diner with my girlfriend and a Cobalt SS rolled up, so i had to impress her and show her that my car was not some pile of American scrap metal. He smoked me in first and second gear, third i started to pull up and fourth i blew past him and slowed down at 100mph, then i heard a clunk and aparently at the shop the guy told me one of my sensors came loose, Thank god that was it! lol but i still won haha sucka!

 

Is your car stock? I raced my cousins Cobalt SS and it was the opposite. He started pulling me once I got into third gear. I held my own until about 80ish.

 

i have a high flow oil and fuel pump and a custom short ram intake i made and i took the cat off and put a buypass pipe on. that bout it.

 

I'm guessing you probably don't know if it was the newer cobalt or not? if it was an older cobalt SS, it could have been the 171hp 2.4L non supercharged engine.. or the 205hp 2.0L supercharged engine... if it was the newer cobalt SS with the 2.0 Turbo, it would have been pushing 260hp.. so which of these 3 models do you think you took? because the sounds of your setup, my 08 turbo cobalt SS wouldnt have much problem beating you.

 

FWD, 4 cylinder boosted cars do not pull high torque RWD cars in first and second and then loose on top, I'm guessing he just backed off after smoking you. My current setup stays with my buddies Supercharged SS Cobalt through about 45-55mph, then he starts to pull a tad. What is your full setup - carb, tbi, tpi? trans?

 

my girlfriends gotta '06 Cobalt LT. its not an SS but its still fun to drag a little lol. just a mostly stock 1988 Camaro base. dropped a 350 TBI and put headers on it with 2.5 inch exhaust. wanna run dual exhaust eventually. to cold to work on it. but yeah i kick her a$$ through 1st 2nd 3rd and 4th lol. im at about 100 when shes at around 90. love it
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you guys gotta realize that a Cobalt and a Firebird or Camaro are more than likely different in weight to. and a stock bird or camaro is no less than 16 years old and have normal wear and tear. a Cobalt is like 3 years old lol

 

guess so wat ever it doesnt matter you guys should check the 455 pontiac swap im doing into an early third gen. its going to rape face once done.

 

thats something i REALLY been wantin to do. a pontiac 455. it would be magical. gotta link for the thread? id like to see it all happen.

 

I know i cant wait till i finish im currently in the rebuild stage of the engine and looking for the car to put it in. how do you link it?
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so basically im not trying to brag but if i get it set up right it will own.

 

dont worry bout it ill just go find it. where exactly is it located? in engine swap??

 

ya look for pontiac engine swap non-chevy. i have pics of the engine, trans and the exaust set up i want to use.

 

sweet ill check it out in a bit!

 

I think he backed off man. What year is your car and motor? I highly doubt a TPI motor would rape him up top if he smoked you through the first 2 and a half gears...

 

prob. o well it doesnt matter that much cause once i get my swap done that wont happen again.

 

prob. o well it doesnt matter that much cause once i get my swap done that wont happen again.

 

yeah u didnt beat a supercharged or turbocharged ss....maybe...MAYBE N/A ss those are still good for 15's though

 

Nothing like bumping a year and a half old thread to confirm the obvious....

 

 

Good job!

 

I had stock intake, but heads/cam/exhaust/headers on the 86 305 700r4 with 2.73's and i beat the supercharged SS Cobalt in 2007 from a 40 mph roll up to 205km/h (i dunno how many miles/h, probably around 120?), he was in the lead until 3rd then i pulled on him hard and his car had no breath left... Right after we zoomed by a cop going that fast but the cop already was writing a ticket to someone he just looked at us and i got the hell outta there... Haven't done much street racing since.. It's dangerous and against the law!

 

I raced a newer turbo one and he cold BARELY start to reel me in until the middle of 4th gear. even then I had him beat at the end of a 1/4 mile. I fear no turbo,lol

 

Cobalts are/where ghey. Looked stupid and performed.... eh.... I may be a little biased because I won an SRT-4. Mine runs 13.0s all day long with only minor (~$600) bolt on stuff and some drag radials.

 

I own a 06 Cobalt SS S/C and can confirm they run low 14's stock. (can post time slips and videos if debated)

With drag radials they get into the 13.7 range. A 55 shot of nitrous and they run low 13's.

That 600 dollars for the nitrous kit plus drag radials. Although I will admit the SRT-4 as a biggrer aftermarket then the Balts.

 

Add Nitrous to an SRT and you're in the mid-high 12's; The two cars simply aren't comparable.

I knew about the Cobalt coming out when I was looking at SRTs (long time GM owner) but couldn't get past the godawful looking exterior to see the nice interior.

 

Well it's one of those to each thier own deals. I like the exterior and the interior (espically my factory Recaro's) of the Balts. Yeah I know the SRT-4 has more potential for mods and gains. Sadly the Balts have the potenital to perform but not aftermarket has really pushed them except ZZP. ZZP had a twin charge system for 2 grand that upped the HP from 230 to nearly 500. They decided to push the car to see what would break first. After hitting 520 horse the thing that finally gave was the stock clutch.

Doesn't matter to me thou I don't race the Balt I race the Camaro

 

Just had 2 come into the dealership this week, one for a blown motor, other for a blown trans.

Chances are the kids were beating on them but still....a cheap, POS econo-car trying to be fast=fail.

 

The two problems with the Balt are the fuel system and the people.
The system is a returnless fuel system and often the number 4 piston the last on the fuel rail line will starve the #4 piston causing a lean condition. Usually when the kids throw smaller pullies on the Eaton M62 S/C. The other issue is the people. The clutch on Cobalts are electronic controlled and don't work like a traditonal clutch so most people (kids) don't know how to drive them correctly and burn the clutch up from slipping it during launches and power shifts.

My 06 is now at 42K miles and the clutch is as strong as the day I got it brand new.
Thats with hundreds of Drag strips passes, nitrous and thousands of rally races.

The car's engine (LSJ) is a strong engine once you fix the fuel system issue. Forged pistons and a strong torque band is what makes the car. It's not so much an econo car trying to be fast equaling a fail. All they done is take the Cobalt platform change the suspension to a race suspension, Changed the engine to a high performance 4 cyl and put a strong Transmission (again ZZP finally killed the clutch at 520hp) and made a FWD Sports car.

Thats like saying the Camaro is just a coupe trying to be fast because they sell the V6 Econo option and then turned around and made a V8 model to be fast. It's the same principal. And the Cobalt isn't an econo car in the sense of size either. My Balt is almost as long the 3rd Gen.

Anyways again to each thier own and yes the Balt was a teens car which is why they are beat on so much. The difference between me and them is I know how much to beat on a car and how far to go. They don't. It's like women they only take so much before they leave right??

 

About the 'kids beating on them' topic;

When I was going to buy an SRT it was 03/2005. I wanted an 05 "Orange Blast" colored one, but after talking to the dealer (who had two new 04s) I decided on an 04. The 04-05 SRTs are virtually identical but the 04 was offered with the 7yr, 70000 mile warranty whereas the 05 was only offered with a 3yr, 36000 mile. Seems Dodge was getting the idea of what these cars were used for.

Me personally, the only thing I had go wrong was a passenger side axle. Other than that, I'm in the same boat; Countless drag strip passes on the stock clutch and the car still performs like new. The only thing I'm beginning to think I need is an exhaust system - Seems that when the turbo spools up and the injectors squirt fuel, I'm getting some unburnt fuel going through the Cat and going BOOM! Its like as soon as boost hits and I start to take off, I get a quick Pop-pop-pop and then I'm gone like a flash. Gotta investigate that one, but I think its just the cat getting clogged.

 

You could be running rich causing the unburnt fuel to hit the turbo which burns hotter than the exhaust coming out so the turbo is igniting the fuel and then it hits the cat causing your pop - pop - pop sound. If you have a wideband check the AFR when you hit WOT. The wide band has to read before the turbo though for the right reading.

Had a buddie with an SRT-4 who had the same problem he had a wide band and kept saying the afr was right I told him to read right from the header and he was quite suprised..

 

trying to be fast huh? You live near philly so do I lets set up a race. And i see that ur procharged so maybe you'll keep up. We can post it here too for everyone to see.

 

Procharged L98 will beat a cobalt..

 

What would that prove? Sorry bud but I don't really street race and I don't need to stroke my ego. If your car is stock don't bother. If it's modded, great...if you were to beat me great. That would prove what exactly? You modded a car to beat a thirdgen?

Not sure what's hard to understand, you start putting power through those things they break. That's not a shot at the car, that's not talking bad about them, it's the truth. At the end of the day it's still an economy car with a hopped up motor. Please don't try to tell me a Cobalt is a quality car, please don't sit there and tell me it's well built. Those things have more TSB's than most cars, more stupid stuff breaking than most cars I know. The only thing well built in it is the motor, for the most part it's a rock solid motor. But again, it's a economy car with typical GM shortcomings with build quality(and before someone else jumps on me I'm die hard GM guy but I'm not gonna look at their vehicles through rose colored glasses). I guess the SRT-4 isn't a Neon at the end of the day neither?

So relax, clean the sand out of your vag.

BTW, it's pretty bad you had to bump almost 2 month old thread just to puff out your chest. So based on that you win, you're faster. You can claim a kill

 

Well said!!

 

...and just so I'm not labeled a complete Cobalt hater didn't the fastest turbo SS record get broken last night? 11.9xx? Not to shabby for a tin can Cavalier

 

Modded? You are modded correct? wtf are u talkign about lol A cobalt ss will beat any stock l98 thirdgen, and i have 2 thirdgens and a 4th gen lt1. The cobalt beat all of them when it was stock. And i have 100k miles on my cobalt and about 325 to the wheels. TVS harrop supercharger, 2.6 pulley, full exhaust, intake, and god i dont even remember. Trust me i will pull u hard. And i've had these mods since i owned the car at 10k miles. And the only thing that went wrong was a clutch, and intercooler pump.

 

i wont lie the interior is pretty shitty.

 

how much does a stock cobalt ss do on the 1/4 mile? And which year L98 are we talking, 89 was the fastest year..

 

A Stock Cobalt SS S/C runs anywhere from 14.7 to 14.5.
But you have to remember alot of Cobalts have a Stage 2 kit. For 500 dollars gm put 42lb injectors a smaller s/c pulley and and engine retune that bumped the rev limiter from 6500 to 7000. And this also retained the stock warranty. So most people got stage 2 because the power went from 205hp to 245hp for only 500 bucks! With a stage 2 kit Cobalts runs anywhere from 13.9 to 14.2.

 

Great, you're faster. You proved that you're faster than a 21yr old car go you.

Someone get this man a cookie.

Performance of the SS aside(which in stock form they're not that fast) what's so great about a Cobalt? That was my point, now you can be butt-hurt because I said something about God's own created Cobalt but tell me where I'm wrong. It's an econo-box box with a hopped up motor

You bring up the performance of a stock L98. How is that in any way shape or form relevant? You're talking about technology that's 2 decades old during a time that was just coming out of the smog era...

But...since we're talking times here I've personally witnessed a bone stock SD L98 run 14.30's all day long....show me a stock Cobalt running that. Obviously most thirdgens don't run that, but most are still in the 14.50-14.70 range, which ironically, is around what a stock Cobalt will run.

So just stop, I made a comment about the car's quality and you come in here like Billy Badass because I said something about a junk, cookie cutter, throw away car. Just because the car can be made to put some power down doesn't mean it's some magical creation. They're cool little cars for what they are...but please don't kid yourself by thinking it's a quality car. Different strokes for different folks I suppose.

So you win, you're tons faster, you'd put my car to shame. So go tell TGO you beat me by 13.25 car lengths for all I care.

EDIT: BTW this is just fun, playful banter. I'm bored right now lol

 

Yeah, definitely a good kit to buy since it's under GM's warranty. It's much like the SRT-4 kits Mopar has.

 

I tried to find the famous motivational poster. Back when Cobalts came out a guy was trolling the LS1 forums about cobalts beating LS1 camaros and firebirds stock. And a picture started circulating of a 747 in the sky and the pilot is looking out the cockpit window and a cobalt ss flys buy with flames coming out the tail pipe and the pilot yells "DAMN YOU STAGE II!!!!". That pic was classic.

Anyways please don't let me stop the flame war. Continue on....

 

correction...

a stock L98 thirdgen and a stock SC/SS Cobalt are equally matched

a stock LT1 fbody will beat a stock SC/SS Cobalt

 

il race ur cobalt...my dads 97 extra long 2500 series chevy 305 cargo van it weighs about 13000 lbs with tools and shelvs ...is that fair?

 

Let's settle this, they're both slow. 15's are nothing to brag about, that's why when I ran a 15.5 bone stock with my 305TPI, I never showed anyone the time slip.

 

I've ran a turbo version i do believe a couple times on the street rolling and i walk right past them. I don't blow past this guy though. I walk past... I'm impressed with his car, its not all that much slower than me. If he were to go to the track i'll bet he would run like a 14 flat. Or damn close to it....

 

I raced a stock cobalt many years ago with much less mods.. i still back then had a 305 cammed but stock intake and 2.73's, and beat him in a top speed race. It was the SS with some kind of exhaust/blowout valve mod cuz it sounded alot more whiney from the supercharger. NOW with mods to almost everything on my engine (except for tune!), I run a 14.2 on the 1/4 mile on a hot day (will go back now that it's cooler).

 

Yeah im not dissagreeing with the build quality its not that great. But personally i have ran consistant 14.3's bone stock with a shitty 2.1 60. When i went stage2 i had drag radials and went 13.7 with a 2.0 60 now i can consistantly pull off 1.9 60's with a torque dampener and slicks. But cobalts are not a drag racing car by any means, thats what my 3rd gen and 4th gen is for. I can get 13.8s all day with my lt1 with just exhaust and intake but i trap 7 mph higher with the cobalt. And to whoever said an lt1 will beat a stock cobalt is wrong, its a drivers race with the edge going to the lt1.

 

An LT1 WILL beat a Cobalt SS (sc). I raced a friends SS and we were dead even from a roll when I had a stock 305tpi with only mods being a deleted cat and 3.42 gears. And I got beat by every LT1 I raced.

 

I forgot to mention i did not hear the whine from the Cobalt i raced, i'm very sure it was a turbo version. With the run it gave me i'm sure it was.

 

no, you are wrong. A stock LT1 will trap at least 99mph and run low 14s/high 13s all day long. No stock SC/SS cobalt can do that. My ex-GF ran a 14.0 at 100mph in her completely stock auto 94' Formula that had 120k on the clock. One with a stick and a good driver can do even better

a TC/SS would be equal to a LT1 fbody. But the SC/SS is better compared to a L98 in E/T and trap speed