Slash

Alright me and my friend Shane have been arguing over this for years even before we got our cars and now that we do we're planning on a race when i hit 18.(legit at track)
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My Camaro:
88 irocZ 350tpi, 700r4 ( have a megashifter not installed yet)

Mods:
Mostly just stock, Dynomax Catbacks, hollowed out catalytic converter(previous owner did both). ( Have a jet performance stage 2 chip, not installed. How much does this help out and what should i see when i put it in)
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His Mustang:
95 Gt CONVERTABLE
- 5.0 v8
- Flowmasters 80series
- Reduced it's weight by about 200-300lbs
- Automatic + overdrive
- In my eyes the engine looks stock I've only seen underhood once but he claims it has mild mods that he wont tell me ( claims wants to wait til after he beats me to tell)

He just keeps bragging how his previous owner raced it at the tracks before he bought it

Oh and the Car had a transmission problem last july claims it's been fixed.
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Side Question figured might aswell ask it here aswell: How much would it cost to turn my 350 into a 383 stroker. I'm a highschool student w/o a job atm lols. And theres no scrap yards near me that lets you look around and pull stuff

fly89gta

iTrader: (1)

Is the 5.0 stock? If so you won't lose unless you can't drive.

Slash

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In my eyes the engine looks stock I've only seen underhood once but he claims it has mild mods that he wont tell me ( claims wants to wait til after he beats me to tell) The engine compartment is seriously cramped i dont see how it could fit anything extra in there

He just keeps bragging how his previous owner raced it at the tracks before he bought it, and my lil iroc doesnt stand a chance

Oh and the Car had a transmission problem last july claims it's been fixed.

fly89gta

iTrader: (1)

Tell him that the previous owner racing it means NOTHING...kids in their 17 second Hon-duh's race theirs all time....

Hmmmm....he won't tell you the mods until after the race...sounds a bit fishy on his end.

Slash

and he keeps messing around bragging that his car "weighs next to nothing" since the previous owner took out alot of the weighed parts replacing w/ aluminum pieces and how i weigh too much to catch him. And if i'm correct i believe that since it's a convertable it acturally weighs more than the hardtop to begin with right?) I think it's all talk but meh lol, i'd just like a lil insurence policy by finding opinions on what i could add if needed. eitherway it turns out gonna be fun as hell. i don't care bout winning races i just love racing.

campin1983

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There's something fishy going on with that Mustang's engine. Noone in their right mind would pull a stock 4.6 and drop in a stock 5.0. Those 80's 5.0's were like the LO3's in our camaros. If the P/O pulled a good 4.6 for a 5.0, then i'd bet money the 5.0 isn't stock or anywhere close to it.

And as for "looking stock to my eyes," there's plenty you can't see that makes all the difference. The engine internals wouldn't really change the look of the motor.

Slash

Dno like i said he only let me look under hood once, and it is strange the 4.6 was replaced w/ a 5.0 it looks like a newer 5.0 engine, might not even be ford it doesnt match any pictures i've seen of 80s 5.0s looks too modern. I'm not much of a engine tech guy but just didnt seem like an old engine looked at least mid to late 90s. I'd laugh so hard if i found out it is the 4.6 with 5.0 stickers and markings lol. but thats only a dream >.> i'd love to humiliate him like that
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And if you think it's badass lol what would i need to beat it >.> and price wise

89IrocZ350TPI

lol those year mustangs were dogs, you will win easy.. not like the 99-04's were even fast, hell the 05-10s are still slow lol.

Slash

stock i can agree w/ you but i have no idea wuts in it :x I'm not engine Savy so dunno what woulda been put in there or what i even should put in my iroc.

Slash

C"mon guys >.> use your imaginations in what would be in it :x Best to be prepared for worst so if he was bluffing i'l smoke him even harder. or if he really is set up good it would be a gr8 race.
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Supposed to go down next month so i need ideas and prices >.>

danziger

Too many unknowns to answer. His mystery engine could be a 408 Windsor for all we know...

Slash

Ok people i'm a F*cking dumbass lmao i was trying to get out of him what else is in the car today. and i was mistaken >_<
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it's a 95 Gt Convertible not a 96. So it has the standard 5.0 from that year, but i STILL do not know what mods he might have.
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Theres got to be engine tech guys here that could say "well if i was him i prolly put in.. and you will need ... to beat it"
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and lol i can 100% gaurentee it's not a 408 :P

sailtexas186548

iTrader: (2)

"if i was him i'd put in": a cam, some twisted wedge alum. heads, stall converter, rear gears, intake/exhaust/headers, and a hidden 150 shot.

there, he could have all that and your gonna get SMOKED. just go race him, this guessing what he might have isn't gonna get you anywhere...

Slash

it keeps me occupied during the long school hours rofl
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and we're both jobless 17 year olds. all mods he has were already in the car when he bought it for 3500$

bluers91

You should beat him unless he has a power adder.

Put some headers on ur car for extra insurance.

zraffz

nice bump, realistically if he got that car for $3500, that's about what they are worth in stock form so I can't see it having aftermarket heads.

chevy boi

lol that brings back memories. a kid at my highschool was making that exact same claim that his 94 5.0 cobra ( not a real cobra just a fender badge) would smoke me. a lil history on it i had a l98 with a flowmaster cat back, injectors and cut out. everything else was stock, but well maintained. he had a cold air intake and ran the car with open headers ( lol the idea of loud being fast ) and some other bs that i didnt care for .he went around the school telling people he already beat me so i called him out, got about 12 other racers to watch the race. it ended up bad for him. out of 5 runs i was able to keep pulling on him each time.

and guys come on now i am willing to bet that the mustang has little to no work done. if it dose have work im willing to bet its just your basic bolt ons. not to many kids can drop a couple grand on a H/I/C setup. if i was you look at his fuel rail and if there is anything aftermarket on it then get a littl worried

'87IROCZOWNER69

iTrader: (1)

That car probably doesnt have anything aftermarket on it because I have seen the crappier 95 mustang convertibles with the V6 go for that much. Even so if I were you I would get some good headers and maybe a set of nitrous that way you can blow his doors off and he will crap his pants and sit in awe wondering what just happened. Oh and if you do do this I would probably put some money on this. If his mustang is stock it is only running 215 hp and 285 ft/lbs while your car is doin just over 225 hp and 330 ft/lbs. But just in case throw on a pair of headers atleast

1brd2brd3brd4

WHat is up with the headers??? They arent going to give you that much. 3 inch cat back would help out more. being a 350 IROC it "should" already have the larger 2 1/4 manifolds on it. They will flow enough for a stock engine. Best bang for your buck............GEARS! How ever this may cause you to spin baddly until you learn to control it. Check junk yards for S-10's. They came with 3:42's, 3:73's AND 4:11 in the early 4 cyl 4x4's

chevy boi

acctully the best modd i did to my l98 was the lt1 intake swap. but i heard the lt1intakes.com shut down so that might be out of the question. the biggest problem with the l98 is it runs out of breath way to early. do some intake work and the free mods and you should be good on this one

jordanandrewkay

wait im assuming your talking about taking the gears out of the rearend and just rebuilding yours w/ it. or using the entire rearend from the truck???
just curious....

chevy boi

i belive that you will need the entire rear end. they use a 10bolt rear end and most of the irocs come with the 9 bolt. if you have a 10 bolt you can rebuild it with the truck gears

1brd2brd3brd4

Yeah, I had a dumb attack. I forgot about the 9 bolt. Just thought about it this moring while taking a shower, so, no. If you have a 9 bolt forget about getting gears unless you have deep pockets. Your not gonna put an S-10 rear under your car. But again IF you have a 10 bolt its the cheapest way to get a good set of gears.

I was hoping I could edit my post before anyone reminded me of the 9 bolt!!LOL

88 5.7 Iroc-Z

so what happened with the race, when is it supposed to go down???

IROC#1

No kidding!! Youve been talking about this now for 2+ months! Get out there and race! Let us know what the outcome was!!!

Slash

haha honestly i entirely forgot about this thread. it was gone for over 2months. thought ya'll lost interest.
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Update:
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We havn't been able to race yet, his transmission went and his fan isn't turning on etc, keeps and doesn't have time to fix atm w/ a kid on the way this month. He keeps throwing excuses and now my car is having a problem. Although i did beat a 2009 Mustang last sunday somehow o.O
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And i havn't been able to mod my iroc at all due to family problems - dad forced to quit his job and look for a new one (giant pay reduction) so my paycheck has been goin towards family atm. Also starting to have a problem w/ my transmission or rear-end not a clue what it is since i suck at mechanics will post a link to thread when i make it.
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https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/tran...ml#post4598126

jmmass

no worries if he has what u say he does. u should have him easy

Slash

Race is officially not happening.. :/
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The problems he's having is gonna cost him around 1500$ to fix and is going to have to sell the stang for a baby-friendly car.
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and i found out what was wrong w/ my iroc, the lockup torque converter is starting to go on me

ROCFATHER

Lots of drama building up to race that was never going to happen!!! You had me fooled bro.

Slash

Lot of drama indeed, but i honestly did think we were gonna get it done by summer's end. had no idea he was gonna sell it til hour or 2 before i posted

92FBirdVert

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Tell him I'll race him for pink slips, I have a 1998 cobra with 373 gears, headers, short throw, bbk cai, reduced 400 lbs.