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Old Jan 22, 2011 | 11:55 PM
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Originally Posted by cuisinartvette
and stupid, hope you dont become the one that Tbones an ambulance because you couldnt hear it. Keep your racing at the track where it belongs.
That's a matter of opinion and I'll race my car on the road if there isn't anyone else around. Btw, there is no track around here. Thank you.

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Old Jan 23, 2011 | 08:32 PM
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Re: 2 races tonight against a newer model truck

Nearest ones around here are close to 100 miles away makes for a nice day trip
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Old Jan 23, 2011 | 09:28 PM
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Re: 2 races tonight against a newer model truck

Sooooooo much misinformation in here

Originally Posted by 83C_CamAroZ28
so wat if it was a truck...trucks r faster now...
The newest chevy 1500 has 315 hp and runs a 16.5. Thats pathetic. Most "newer" trucks are around that time with basically all of them not running any quicker than 15's.....and they shouldn't. There not race cars. Most have a tad over 300 HP and weigh 5000+ lbs. No performance vehicles by any means.

Originally Posted by zraffz
I don't get what it matters what it was. It wasn't a legitimate race anyway. Bottom line is he won; whether it be a pickup truck or a dodge neon it doesn't really matter.

If you all want to bash trucks so badly, line up against a new diesel truck or a new vortecmax or hemi. I will guarantee you a new bone stock single cab short bed hemi will put a smack down on just about everybody who is bashing trucks in this thread. Just because it weighs 4,000+ lbs doesn't mean it isn't fast. Factor in power to weight, your 3400 lb F-body with 215 hp or a 4,500 lb 450ish horse truck.
The 2010 dodge ram hemi runs a 15.7 1/4 mile and it has 390 hp. Again, that sucks because trucks were never designed to be race cars. They are meant for hauling. And anything with a diesel is going to weigh a CRAPLOAD more than 4500 lbs. Try more like 6000lbs. My freinds chevy extended cab 1500 4x4 weighs a tad over 5000lbs and it's gasoline......diesels are HEAVY engines.

Originally Posted by sailtexas186548
don't forget to factor in aero and gearing

yes some trucks are fast but 98% of them are not. high to mid 13's stock is not "fast", quick yes, fast no. third gens are just slow stock... they are 25 years old now
I have never seen a truck besides an SRT10 or lightning that runs 13's stock!! Not even close to it.

Originally Posted by CamaroIROC88350
Oh, I couldn't tell because I had an MP3 player going music/headphones but the truck had power, that's all I can say. It was a legitimate street quickie race but unlike some I don't underestimate anyone in anything. You just never know!
Normally you can tell pretty quickly just by glancing over at what you raced.....and headphones while driving?

Originally Posted by vistageek92
I was raced by a Ford Lighting. That was the first time i realized that was a sports car in a truck body. We got up to 140mph and he passed us. My Brother and I just looked at each other and backed off. We could have kept up with him but we didn't bother. He had to been going 150mph.

All started because my brother and I passed 3 cars who were going slower then crap, and one of those cars was the Lighting, he pulled around and got right on our tail. He passed going about 85, we passed him going about 100, he passed us about 115, we passed him and slammed it up to 140-145mph he was behind but keeping up, then we let off and thats when he passed us going about 150mph. That was ridiculous.

So yeah, dont underestimate trucks.
It sounds to me like you guys played cat and mouse until 140 mph and no actual race ever occured. This story just sounds like a recipe for disaster.....passing 3 cars, and passing each other until 140+ mph? I hope at least this was on the highway and not some single lane back road. And it's not a sports car with a truck body....it's a truck with a sports car engine. It's like trying to move a brick through the air, and they ussually fall on thier faces up top.

Originally Posted by CamaroIROC88350
Yeah, those Lightning trucks are no joke and are built for speed and power. I think they have anywhere between 340 to 400rwhp depending on the year.
The highest HP version made 380 at the flywheel. Maybe 320 RWHP if your lucky. Again, building a truck to go fast is like the special olympics....even if you win, your still retarded. It takes basically twice the HP in a truck to do what a car can.
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Old Jan 23, 2011 | 11:08 PM
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Re: 2 races tonight against a newer model truck

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I have never seen a truck besides an SRT10 or lightning that runs 13's stock!! Not even close to it.
yeah man thats what i was saying
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Old Jan 24, 2011 | 12:11 AM
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Re: 2 races tonight against a newer model truck

Originally Posted by sailtexas186548
yeah man thats what i was saying
OK, gotcha....lol, I was gonna say....
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Old Jan 24, 2011 | 01:38 AM
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It takes basically twice the HP in a truck to do what a car can.
I wouldn't say all that, when i had my stock 305 Tbi 60xxx miles my dad had a 1990 GMC pickup with a 350TBI 150xxx miles short bed pickup truck, me and my brother raced them from a dig and a 40mph roll stock for stock and i got my *** handed to me twice! LO3 VS LO5, truck vs car 170hp 250tq 210hp 300tq i don't know the weight of the two, however i did start pulling on him at around 90mph.



I will say this now that i think about it, I hade 2:73s at the time dad had 3:73s, that could have easily been the acceleration increase to give that truck the edge.

My point is anyone that has a 305 Tbi with 2:73 gears is about as fast as a modified 4 banger.

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That's a lie, when i had my stock 305 Tbi 60xxx miles my dad had a 1990 GMC pickup with a 350TBI 150xxx miles short bed pickup truck, me and my brother raced them from a dig and a 40mph roll stock for stock and i got my *** handed to me twice! LO3 VS LO5, truck vs car 170hp to 250tq 210hp 300tq i don't know the weight of the two, however i did start pulling on him at around 90mph.
Well then that 60K mile 305 was hurting bad somehow. It's simple really. Weight and HP are 2 of the most important things to going fast. Gearing and all that plays a part too, but the power to weight ratio of the truck is 23 and the ratio of the camaro is 20. The camaro should go faster, period. That truck is rated at a low 17 second 1/4 mile. Your camaro is rated at a mid 15. Big difference.

I raced my freinds 95 1500 350 TBI short bed truck in my dads 99 ford ranger with a 4 cyl and a 5 speed and beat him. Those trucks are dogs stock.

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Re: 2 races tonight against a newer model truck

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Well then that 60K mile 305 was hurting bad somehow. It's simple really. Weight and HP are 2 of the most important things to going fast. Gearing and all that plays a part too, but the power to weight ratio of the truck is 23 and the ratio of the camaro is 20. The camaro should go faster, period. That truck is rated at a low 17 second 1/4 mile. Your camaro is rated at a low 15. I don't think any V8 third gen was ever rated that slow.

I raced my freinds 95 1500 350 TBI short bed truck in my dads 99 ford ranger with a 4 cyl and a 5 speed and beat him. Those trucks are dogs stock.
I guess that 95 1500 was hurting real bad, because my little 305 ran great for what it was.
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Re: 2 races tonight against a newer model truck

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I guess that 95 1500 was hurting real bad, because my little 305 ran great for what it was.
I'm sure his 180k mile 350 TBI wasn't like it was back in 95, thats for sure. But then again niether is the drivetrain on a 3rd gen now a days most of the time. By the 1/4 mile times, that race should have been given to the camaro. The auto trannys get real sloppy over time too though.
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I'm sure his 180k mile 350 TBI wasn't like it was back in 95, thats for sure. But then again niether is the drivetrain on a 3rd gen now a days most of the time. By the 1/4 mile times, that race should have been given to the camaro. The auto trannys get real sloppy over time too though.
If i'm not mistaken don't a stock lo3 run high 16s in the quarter mile not 15s. And the 700r4 felt pretty strong at the time. And where you get your drag times see if that truck of yours had 3:73s.
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If i'm not mistaken don't a stock lo3 run high 16s in the quarter mile not 15s. And the 700r4 felt pretty strong at the time. And where you get your drag times see if that truck of yours had 3:73s.
Nope, motor trend back in an 88 issue I found got like a 15.6 or so out of a stock LO3 camaro. And most trucks are geared higher to get them going and for towing purposes. They either came in 3.73 or 3.42 I think. Most prob being 3.73.
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Re: 2 races tonight against a newer model truck

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Nope, motor trend back in an 88 issue I found got like a 15.6 or so out of a stock LO3 camaro. And most trucks are geared higher to get them going and for towing purposes. They either came in 3.73 or 3.42 I think. Most prob being 3.73.

15.6 in the quarter mile out of a stock L03 RSCamaro with stock tires? Hell no!
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15.6 in the quarter mile out of a stock L03 RSCamaro with stock tires? Hell no!
Motor trend got it......and I found a vid of an LO3 camaro on youtube with just a K&N filter going consistent 15.9's, and thats a tired 20+ year old engine as opposed to the new one motor trend had.
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