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Old May 16, 2011 | 04:44 PM
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89 RS vs 09 Ford Fusion

My friend claims he could beat my Camaro. What do you guys think?
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Old May 16, 2011 | 05:20 PM
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Re: 89 RS vs 09 Ford Fusion

Come on man, give everyone some info... Can't help you a bit without more information.
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Old May 16, 2011 | 05:23 PM
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Re: 89 RS vs 09 Ford Fusion

Depends on what edition fusion it is. The SE V6 creates about 220HP and 205 lb ft of torque.

Depends on how stock your V6 is. But i say its a possibility he's right.
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Old May 16, 2011 | 06:10 PM
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Re: 89 RS vs 09 Ford Fusion

I wouldn't bet any money I couldn't stand to lose on the proposition, even if I had a 305 TPI car
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Old May 16, 2011 | 10:22 PM
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Re: 89 RS vs 09 Ford Fusion

I think he'd dust ya hardcore.
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Old May 17, 2011 | 01:28 AM
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Re: 89 RS vs 09 Ford Fusion

your gonna get waxxxxed by his economy car
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Old May 17, 2011 | 02:46 AM
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Re: 89 RS vs 09 Ford Fusion

Originally Posted by jkrustchinsky
your gonna get waxxxxed by his economy car
Well I don't know about that... I beat my friends 2000ish granny altima with my 305
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Old May 17, 2011 | 03:40 PM
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Re: 89 RS vs 09 Ford Fusion

I'd hate to dissapoint you all, but my V6 is pretty much stock (+/- a few horses)

Man... Talk about walkin away with tail between legs.
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Old May 17, 2011 | 11:53 PM
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Re: 89 RS vs 09 Ford Fusion

I have no doubt you'll lose so it being a tad dissappointment. But your car isnt a v8 so its not that dissappointing.
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Old May 18, 2011 | 12:52 AM
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Re: 89 RS vs 09 Ford Fusion

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I'd hate to dissapoint you all, but my V6 is pretty much stock (+/- a few horses)

Man... Talk about walkin away with tail between legs.
Now its an answer on how bad you will get beat, which version of the Fusion does he have. Depending on the model you could beat him with some add-ons. For instance the 4-banger model has around 160 hp, his car also weighs about 3,300 pounds so you guys are similar in race.

Start with weight reduction which means: no passengers, remove back seats, put t-tops in garage (if applicable), and make sure you race on about a quarter tank of gas maybe a little less. I would also yank out the spare tire while your at it and make sure your car has zero trash in it. EVERY OUNCE COUNTS in this situation. lol

Then move onto stuff to get better airflow and work on removing friction from the drivetrain.

Just a couple of hints.
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Old May 18, 2011 | 01:05 AM
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Re: 89 RS vs 09 Ford Fusion

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Now its an answer on how bad you will get beat, which version of the Fusion does he have. Depending on the model you could beat him with some add-ons. For instance the 4-banger model has around 160 hp, his car also weighs about 3,300 pounds so you guys are similar in race.

Start with weight reduction which means: no passengers, remove back seats, put t-tops in garage (if applicable), and make sure you race on about a quarter tank of gas maybe a little less. I would also yank out the spare tire while your at it and make sure your car has zero trash in it. EVERY OUNCE COUNTS in this situation. lol

Then move onto stuff to get better airflow and work on removing friction from the drivetrain.

Just a couple of hints.
All good advice... also, if you're going from a roll up your tire pressure as much as you safely can to decrease rolling resistance. If you're going from a dig adjust it so you get just a little tire squeal so you don't bog but not so much that you just waste energy on your launch. Also, practice launching and shifting a lot! Depending on how bad you want to win, a good hard launch with minimum wheelspin and quick powershifts on every gear change could do it.. your tranny and clutch wouldn't like it, but it would definitely help and could give you enough of an edge, especially if his car is a 4 banger and is fully optioned. If nothing else, the practice will make you a better driver and you'll still have your gear jamming skills to be proud of even if you don't have the faster car.
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Old May 18, 2011 | 03:44 PM
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Re: 89 RS vs 09 Ford Fusion

Originally Posted by '87IROCZOWNER69
Now its an answer on how bad you will get beat, which version of the Fusion does he have. Depending on the model you could beat him with some add-ons. For instance the 4-banger model has around 160 hp, his car also weighs about 3,300 pounds so you guys are similar in race.

Start with weight reduction which means: no passengers, remove back seats, put t-tops in garage (if applicable), and make sure you race on about a quarter tank of gas maybe a little less. I would also yank out the spare tire while your at it and make sure your car has zero trash in it. EVERY OUNCE COUNTS in this situation. lol

Then move onto stuff to get better airflow and work on removing friction from the drivetrain.

Just a couple of hints.
Awesoem. I'll check into that. And yes, his is indeed the 4-banger.
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Old May 19, 2011 | 08:57 AM
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Re: 89 RS vs 09 Ford Fusion

yeah, i don't think you'll win, my 04 mazda 6s hauls pretty good
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Old May 19, 2011 | 12:49 PM
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Re: 89 RS vs 09 Ford Fusion

My Caprice (DD) has the L99 (4.3L V8) and I used to run side by side when my Camaro had the stock L03. I screwed around with a Fusion in the Caprice one time and he just walked away. He has more hp and a lighter car... The Caprice is a tank, probably weighs over 4400lbs with me in it and has only 200hp. haha I wasn't too impressed with the Fusion though... Didn't rape me just walked away... Maybe that will shed some light on the V6 version of the Fusion... Not a race car or any meaning of the word, but not a slouch either...
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Old May 21, 2011 | 07:20 PM
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Re: 89 RS vs 09 Ford Fusion

Had a Fusion v6 try me today on the way back from the OC Hotrod show. Needless to say i left him in the dust,but a 5.0 thirdgen may not. Not without mods.
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Old May 21, 2011 | 09:53 PM
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Re: 89 RS vs 09 Ford Fusion

HOw about a v6? because that is what the original poster has...
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Old May 21, 2011 | 10:16 PM
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Re: 89 RS vs 09 Ford Fusion

an RS v6 vs Fusion v6? you could do it if you had a 100 shot of the juice.

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Old May 21, 2011 | 10:18 PM
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Re: 89 RS vs 09 Ford Fusion

Yeah but he said his v6 is stock
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Old May 21, 2011 | 10:24 PM
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Re: 89 RS vs 09 Ford Fusion

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Yeah but he said his v6 is stock
for the record an Rs v6 would probably still lose pretty bad vs a 4 cyl Fusion

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Old May 21, 2011 | 11:29 PM
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Re: 89 RS vs 09 Ford Fusion

Yeah I know. Im saying the camaro's v6 is stock. I dont know anything about the fusion.
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Old May 27, 2011 | 04:10 PM
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Re: 89 RS vs 09 Ford Fusion

For the record:
We did end up racing, just for fun. No bets or anything. The two of us where just sittin' arround and decide, "Hell, why not?"
I lost, but ea. it's alright.
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Old May 27, 2011 | 11:58 PM
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Re: 89 RS vs 09 Ford Fusion

by a lot or by a little?
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