The other night I was coming home from work, and a brand new baseline ford pickup pulls up at the light with me and jumps. Now this was a V8, but with baseline wheels, and I could even see the baseline seat fabric inside (no window tint on base models..). Anyways, The light turns green, and we go, but I lose traction a bit so he is a little ahead. But about 10 feet later the wheelhop stops and I hook up. my front bumper was probalby at his back wheel at this time, but i started to pull him and soon I was way past him. I had to rub it in, so I put my hazards on and went on my way. I dont know why slow trucks always want to race me...

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1983 Firebird
TH700R4 Auto
Small Block 400
LG4 ECM, Intake, Carb, Distributor, etc.
Soon to be non-computer.
Clarion Head Unit 45X4
2 Pioneer 400W 12" Subs
Third Gen Performance
"A four cylinder is half an engine."

[This message has been edited by idrag2 (edited July 29, 2001).]

 

I get F-150s all the time. I haven't raced any of em, (due to severe amount of cops in town) but I looked up ETs and we're pretty even. Fully loaded F-150 is heavy.

 

What are the et's for those trucks? I see them ruinning at the track and the best I have seen is upper 16's low 17's. Your not even, your much faster in the 1/4 mile.

Don't go by what the manufacturer says about et's. In most cases they are overly optimistic.

 

Just be sure you don't confuse a Lightning for an F-150. It will spank you. Don't be fooled. There ARE some fast trucks out there.

 

I got one of 'em... well, two actually. EDIT: Fast trucks, that is...

[This message has been edited by FastBroker (edited July 20, 2001).]

 

In my case the rare ocations when I drive my "76 Chevy Pu" on the streets its fun blow the bejesus out of fast looking cars especially mustangs. Although I do have sevaral camaros and quite a few vetts on the kill list even a few lightnings got grounded out . But the slow truck you probably raced is someone with a loud muffler that thinks his ride is fast cause its the only one he's got. Just think of what a fool that guy feels like and laugh at how bad you spanked him.
SSC
And ward if your looking to be beat by a truck come on up my way and I will oblidge

 

Yea, and I have one....


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350 4 bolt main, Speed-O-Motive 383 stroker kit, re-sized rods ground for clearance,TRW Forged pistons,10.7:1 compression,HPC Coated RPM intake, Holley 750 cfm carb,World Products Sportsman II heads,2.02/1.60 valves, Comp Cam 1.6 roller rockers, Comp Xtreme 284 cam,240/246@.050 with .540 lift,Crane pushrods,ATI damper,Proform HEI and MSD6A box,HPC coated 1 5/8 headers, 2.5" exhaust with 40 series mufflers,TH350 with Hughes 3000 stall, Powertrax NoSlip Locker, 4.11 gears.

 

Grand Cherokee
Full-time 4wd
Custom Dana 60's F+R
5.13 gears
502/502 crate motor, non-stock
4L80E tranny
custom t-case
much more...

350'd Wrangler, too, but the GC is faster. wonder why...

 

My buddy has a 97 S-10 2wd sportside.

Hes an airbrush artist, and the truck looks like a custom lowrider.

But beware the whistle of a Vortech Supercharger. This, along with a few other "mods" is keeping him ahead of many stock LS1 cars.

So don't think most trucks are slow, especially when you see other mods. You just might get your @ss handed to ya.



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Mike L.
It ain't pretty.......

1987 IROC Z TPI 350 A4 3.27 Borg-Warner.

Mods: 2300-2500 Stall Converter, Shift Kit(GM parts), TPI Specialties Stage 3 PROM, Modified Airbox w/ K&N's, homemade cold air, Relocated MAT sensor, Gutted MAF, 160* thermostat, Accel 8mm Wires, bypassed TB coolant, Flowmaster 3 chamber single 3" in/out muffler, 3" MAC mandrel intermediate, custom dual !cat Y-pipe. airfoil, ported plenum. !smog

http://www.MichaelLasiuta.home.att.net

**BOYCOTT LAPEER DRAGWAY**

 

My buddy has a '01 Xtreme S10 that is pretty quick. Has the 4.3L v6. We've only booted around a bit and off the line I spun and still got him by a car length up to 60mph and more after that.

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89 GTA - L98, Black on Black Leather, T-Tops

RIP: 87 Camaro Sport Coupe

 

I don't know if you've seen yet matlock, but one of the fastest vehicles in our area is a 79 blazer thats ALWAYS in 4WD, pushing somwhere around 700 hp.

I've never seen it, only heard stories of how the guy hammers the gas and the thing does about 4 hops and flies past almost anyone he races.

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1991 Firebird Formula
305 TPI,Auto,Custom 3" Mandrel bent I-pipe, Flowmaster 80 series muffler, 3" hi-flo cat,Taylor Spiro Wires,Bosch Platinum Plugs, K&N Filter, Grant GT Steering Wheel, 5% Rear tint, Pontiac Windshield Decal, Fresh paint

Check it out https://www.thirdgen.org/rides/index...ew&rideid=1074

 

Holy cow. I know when I was at the port kells races a few weeks ago there was this blazer that was wooping everyone. Have you heard if its blue with a small spoiler on the canopy?

 

I believe thats the truck...lotsa HP there!!

 

You know who was really fast that night? An 80 Malibu with a permit. Different color primers and slicks on the back. He spun all the way through 1st, put down huge rubber going to 2nd and chirped 3rd. That was cool

 

I didt say trucks were slow, but it only seems the slow ones want to race me. I have tried several times to race lightnings, but they never do. Hell there is an old dodge pickup (late 60s, i think) out that the dallas street races alot who was whipping the holy living sh*t out of everything. I personally saw him beat a 3000GT VR4 (the VR4 was even double clutching), a cobra mustang, an LS1 SS Camaro, and a T/A. I got alot of it on video, maybe i will post it and/or make a 'beware of this truck' poster. :P

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1983 Firebird
TH700R4 Auto
Small Block 400
LG4 ECM, Intake, Carb, Distributor, etc.
Soon to be non-computer.
Clarion Head Unit 45X4
2 Pioneer 400W 12" Subs
Third Gen Performance
"A four cylinder is half an engine."

 

So, I was wondering if a stock Ford Lightening could take a stock LS1 TA or Camaro. The LS1's come stock with about 325-335 horse, meanwhile the Lightening comes with an amazing 385 horse. What would win? What is the weight differences as well as the differences in torque? I always wondered what would win in a race...the Lightenings are some sweet a$$ trucks. Oh yea, dont be fooled by those trucks. On Deer Park Ave here in NY, a big race spot...it has been written up in magazines due to its famous "perfect quarter mile". I have seen some trucks rip the shyte out of TA's. The guy chirped every gear and handed the TA its *** back. I am not sure if it was a 305 or a 350...but the truck looked like it was an '88 or '89 F150. There are too many cops around here in NY...especially on Deer Park Ave since it is such a big hot spot for drag racing.

 

Ford F-150 weighs 4000-4500 pounds or something like that. They're heavy.

 

I was watching some bracket racing the other day at Cayuga International Dragway Park and there were 3 stock 2001 Lightnings racing. The fastest they ran was 13.8 sec.

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1985 LG4 Z28
White w/ Grey ground effects
Red interior
K&N Chrome Element and Filter
Flowmaster 80 series muffler
Aftermarket High-Flow Cat
Chrome Edelbrock Valve Covers

 

The Lightning has only 360hp and it's heavy. The LS1 is rated at 305hp but people dynoed stock LS1s and got 320-330hp at the rear. So the Lightning will stand no chance. My friend's father bought one just for fun and the thing peeles out al over the place. Although I never raced one I would with confidence.
The same friend has an 375hp XJR and I took it every time we raced, up to about 95mph, after that he starts walking up and away. Incidentely, both the Ford and the Jag have the same roots-type blower.
I would say they weight about the same and I can't see anyone of them doing better than low 15s-high 14's(in stock trim)
I also raced a Durango 5.9 RT and beat it pretty bad, and I had no doubt I would. The guy was surprised. I explained to him that his truck was quick for a truck but that was about it.And adding aftermarket bumper-thingies and verious hitches and a wench, was NOT a Hi-Performance upgrade.

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1990 Formula
Factory:TPI-305/Dual Cat(230hp),5 Speed,3.42 rear.
Dealer instaled:Aluminum Drive Shaft
Mods:SLP air foil,K&N Filter, Accel:wires,coil cap,rotor.Hypertech Thermomaster chip,Stat,Fan switch,TES headers,MSD6AL,AFPR(50), Harwood fiberglass hood,Original GM "Notchback GTA" hatch.
Flowmaster 3" Cat-back exhaust,TB coolant bypass, Centerforce dual friction clutch, Ported Plenum (???HP)
DIRECT LINK TO PICS OF MY CAR. NO WEB-PAGE. http://community-2.webtv.net/MZavraz...A90/page9.html

 

A stock LS1 SS or T/A shouldn't have much problem beating a lightning. F-bodies have a weight advantage, plus don't forget an F150 is about as aerodynamic as a barn. The light back end doesnt help for traction, either.

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1983 Firebird
TH700R4 Auto
Small Block 400
LG4 ECM, Intake, Carb, Distributor, etc.
Soon to be non-computer.
Clarion Head Unit 45X4
2 Pioneer 400W 12" Subs
Third Gen Performance
"A four cylinder is half an engine."

 

Hold the boat, I work at Byron dragway in Byron,IL. One of the owners is a huge lighting fan, and has friends there all time with lightings. The stockers are high 13's all day. Then you get the guys with a smaller pulley, CAI, and exhuast running 12's. We even have a 2000 turbo Disel Excurcin running 13.5's now thats a site to see.

 

there's a guy w/ a red and white Dodge Cummins Dually that runs 12's at HRP.. he takes the duals off the back.. and bolts up a set of M/T slicks on 15xreally ****ing wide's.. and literally goes the first 100' or so sideways.. w/ BLACK *** smoke just freely flowing from his exhaust.. you should see the turbo on that bitch.. makes the factory one look like a snail shell.

 

Diesels are bad *ss. My parents motorhome has a 7.2L CAT 6cyl turbo diesel in it, can't wait to hop that up. It makes 890 LBS of torque and 330HP, stock. It moves the 24,000 LB package effortlessly.

When my Chevelle got tested by Motor Trend for PST, There was a Ram Cummins Diesel there with a banks kit on it. It make 980Lbs of torque, and 480 HP! The engine was stock, just bigger turbo ect.

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82' Z-28. 327" w/ flat tops. 216/228/112LS. Pocket ported 041 heads 1.94/1.50 SS valves. World Class T-5 from a 91'. Best run? Runs with 2001 vette to 150mph! Soon to be converted over to TPI w/ supercharger.

 

A 4x2 halfton pick up weighs well over 5000 lbs. Maybe if did not have to many options it could break around 4600. The full frames that they have make them very heavy. Trucks also have a horrible weight bais. The weight is all over the front wheels which usually creates bad wheel hop. After doing suspension mods and dropping the truck's rear out of the air and the whole thing to the height of a mustang they launch a whole lot better. For a truck to be really competitive it needs to be lowered and have a hell of an engine to overcome the weight and brick-like aerodynamics. A classic axample of this is a Pro-Stock Truck.

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84 Z28 383
Stripped w/Cage back halved w/ladder bars and coil overs and 9 inch
700R-4 3.73

 

the town I'm in is over-run by trucks, and there are a lot of custom trucks running around. our town is very small, but we still have 2 lightings, several sonoma/typhoons, and tons of "low-rider" trucks.

One pickup that supposedly has a "done up" 350 can't even hang with me, and I only have a mildly built 350.
but I know of 1 pickup that has huge 41"? pro stock tires on the back, supposedly my friend saw him cook those tires off too, I would like to see that thing run.



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WHO NEEDS VTECH? I HAVE VORTEC

1982 Camaro "VortecZ"
Vortec headed 350 bored .02 over, comp xtreme cam, edelbrock 750 carb, edelbrock performer rpm intake, dynomax 1 5/8" shorty headers, accel ignition, stock TH700r4, powertrax locker, 3.73's

1985 Z28 stock LG4/700r
T-Tops, A/C, soon to be modded.

 

I have a 97 Chevy Tahoe and love racing fast cars off the line. The reason I do this is bacause I love to race and I DO HAVE at least two cars that can beat most street cars anyway. It's easier and safer to race the truck and get a thrill than it is to race the fast cars and get a ticket.

Pete

 

Just remeber if the Ford has a lightning bolt on it, it will hand you your a$$!!! they are mean pickups!!! I heard 360hp stock but that could be some FORD BS, but they are rowdy

 

they put out 450ft-lbs of torque and do 0-60 in about 5 secs...

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1989 Firebird
2.8 v6, t5 swapped in

Performance Mods:
Ram Hi-po clutch, Cold Air, 1.6 rockers,Lakewood LCA's, Lakewood Lift bars, Wonder Bar, 3" y-pipe, Random Tech Cat, 3" I-pipe, Flowmasters, MSd 6a, MSD Coil, Accel 8.8 wires, Auto Meter Gauges (Water, Clock, Fuel Pressure, and 5" Sport Comp Tach)TB Bypass, 4th Gen Seats

Car Stereo:
Blaupunkt head, Monster Cable wiring, MTX Thunder 6000 12" inverted in a personally made box with a 350*1 Amp pushing it, MTX 6x9 in the back with hopes for components in front

Coming for my v6:
Panhard Bar, 4thgen front seats, Nitrous, Line Lock, Posi, Spohn Torque Arm & Subframe connnectors

"I'd rather run last in a full out race, than to NOT have run at all"
#3 Forever

My Site:
Click Here to see my car!

 

have to go find me one now

 

Here are Motor Trends reports on the 2000 model years.
1-Ford lightning
360hp@4750
440Torque@3000
0-60 5.5
1/4 mile 14.0/100.7

2-Pontiac Trans Am
320@5200
345@4400
0-60 5.0
1/4 mile 13.5/107.4

3-Camaro SS
320@5200
345@4400
0-60 5.3
1/4 MILE 13.7/105.6
(Camaro is slower than t/a due to aerodynamics).

Personally I think the Lighting is pretty lame when it takes a supercharger just to get 360 horsepower.
Put that supercharger on the T/A and you would be up in the 500hp mlore or less area.

 

I was at the track last saturday and saw 3 lightnings run and they were all running between 13.30-13.60's so I can attest they FLY!!!

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2000 NHRA Edition T/A
Pewter Metallic
A4 3.23 Gear w/GSC's
Whisper lid, MAF Ends, Ram Air Kit, Exhaust C/O
Best 60ft:1.94
1/8th:8.381@86.03
1/4:12.963@108.44

1989 IROC-Z 5.7
Auto w/3.24 gears

 

quote the VR4 was even double clutching)


What is Double clutching? 1st time i heard of it was in fast n furious.

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86 Sport Coupe
LG4 Auto
Mods
PAW headers/ y-pipe Dynomax Super Converter (not done yet for exhaust)
Edelbrock Open element air filter
L69 ECM
Moog Variable rate rear springs
Black Iroc Interior
Kenwood 120 watt head, Kenwood 6x9's jensen 4x6's rampage 100 watt amp to 6x9's

Future Mods
Carter AFB 625
Holley intake
Accel HEI Dist
Dynomax Bullet
Holley fuel Pump
Chrome dress up
And sooooo much more, it'll never end.


It isnt breaking the law........till you get caught.

 

Double clutching is skiping a gear like 1st to 3rd I believe... I am only guessing here.
I guess this might work if you had a lot of torque...

 

Clutch

Remove shifter from gear

Release and depress clutch

Put shifter in next gear

Double clutching. Not good for racing.

 

I heard it was....

1. Let off the gas, and pull the shifter out of gear (in neutral), without clutching.

2. Depress clutch and put it in gear (from neutral), then release clutch.

3. Repeat.

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