I mean its a subjective question. But also relative to the times we live in.

I think something should run to 100 in less than 13secs and 120 in less than 20secs to really be considered fast.

some vehicles that currently qualify
01' lightenings
ls1 cars
some modified LT1s (not stock SSs).
Mercedes CL55
Jag XJR
M5
M3

No a lot of production cars exist that fall into this catagory.

car and driver lists the MB S600 as 0-100 in 13.1 and 120 in 19.3. That's nothing to sneeze at.

[This message has been edited by jcb999 (edited August 09, 2001).]

 

As far as street racing goes, U better have a 11 sec. ride or better, because most cars run 12-->(on motor or NOS) Just look at the LS1 cars - put a bottle on it and you've got an 11 sec car!

 

well i was more speaking of production vehicles (not modified). But, i tend to agree. Low 11s on the motor seems to be near the sweet spot.

 

Hey jcb999, do you ever go to Compass Bank Wed nights about 10 and hang out with all the street racers? I'll be back in College Station in about 1 1/2 weeks to go back to school and I try to go hang out there whenever possible. As for your question. 11s or low 12s are what I consider fast although some guys run faster on the street. I know of at least on of the guys down there that has a 10 second 4th gen Z28 that's his daily driver. It might be faster now if he finished putting his 400 in.

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82 Camaro:
350
Erson cam, ported heads,Comp Cams 1.6:1 rocker arms
Edelbrock Performer RPM intake, Holley 600
Crane Hi-6 ignition, Accel supercoil
TH350 tranny with 2500 stall.
Eibach Pro Kit
SLP 1 3/4" headers

 

i have not been there recently. Most of the time they get there about 10 p.m. and that is near my bed time on weeknights. A couple of weeks ago the collegestation pd chased everyone off from the bank. The latest thing I heard was they meet at bestbuy now. But, the bryan folks hang out at the bryan hastings and get there a little earlier. I think I know some of the folks your talking about.. one of them has a black Z with a much modified (and sprayed 383) and i think there is a guy with a red Z that is putting a 396 in his (he said something about 9s on the camz28 board).

That should make things pretty interresting, I should have my 400 back in my third gen about that time. And, I have a few hundred lbs less weight than most of them 4th gens.

 

I didn't know that about the police, since I haven't been down there since May. Thanks for letting me know they meet at Best Buy now. The guy with the red Z is Tony Sheppard and is a great guy. If the black Z you were talking about has an orange roll bar, it belongs to another great guy named Scott. Tony cracked me up when he said his 10 second motor wasn't fast enough.

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82 Camaro:
350
Erson cam, ported heads,Comp Cams 1.6:1 rocker arms
Edelbrock Performer RPM intake, Holley 600
Crane Hi-6 ignition, Accel supercoil
TH350 tranny with 2500 stall.
Eibach Pro Kit
SLP 1 3/4" headers

 

the black one i was talking about is jordons http://www.velocityracing.com/camaro/
but yea, tonys is the other. You said something about a 400. I thought he was working on a 396. Is it actually a LT1 taken up to 400?

 

A car that runs 12.0 in street trim is fast in my book. I'm not talking about a car that runs 12.0 on slicks, gutted interior (at the track), opne pipes... I'm thinking about a car that rolls up to the track, doesn't even pop the hood, and runs 12.0 the exact same way it was driven in. No tricks, no racer's prep, just run it.


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Monkey Guy Racing
Almost part of the moderately infamous NJ in-your-face all goomba crew

Do it right the first time.

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1985 IROC LG4 POS Best: 15.20s at 92.1mph
1984 Camaro 350 LG4 Best: 12.21s at 121.7mph

The smart person pays for something today so that more is received tomorrow.
The ignorant person gets something today and hopes to have enough money to pay for it tomorrow.

 

I'm mildy familiar with Jordan's car. When I talked to Tony he had said 400, but he might have just slipped. I dunno.

 

Drove mine 40 miles to the track, rolled off a 8.17@90mph on street tires.(1/8mile) Traction was an issue though..

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1987 GTA 355 inch motor, carbureted, TFS 23* heads, T-56 6-speed, McLeod clutch, 11.3:1, Lunati hydraulic roller .510/.525 lift 232/242 duration @.050 on a 112* lobe seperation, Hooker super comps, Dual 3" flowmaster 2-chamber exhaust with NO tailpipes, 98 Z-28 wheels, Strange 12-bolt rear w/4.30 gears, 33 spline axles and a spool.
This car is driven on average 100 miles weekly... ...Whatever turns your tires.....

 

low 13s is quick, i raced an ls1 z28 once that ran low 13s and he just took off. not to many cars besides one mustang i know of that runs under 12s. i plan to hopefully make my NEW t/a z28 run 12s after like 3 years of paying it off. thats if they give it to me for cheap enough.

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1990 G92 5spd LB9 - 3.42 80,000 miles

Accel Ignition/Wires (8.8mm), Advanced Timing, TB Bypass, Ported and Gasket Matched Plenum, Synthetic Motor Oil, 160 Thermo, TPIS Airfoil, K&N Air Filters, Centerforce I Pressure Plate and Clutch, Edelbrock TES Headers, Dual Cats, Edelbrock RPM Series Catback, Homemade Ram Air, Bosch +4 Platinum Plugs

14.4 @ 94mph w/2.0622 60ft (w/o headers and catback)

14.426 @ 96.19mph w/2.167 60ft(w/headers and catback)

Also newly modded w/o track times:

Holley AFPR, Underdrive Pulleys, KYB Shocks and Struts, Crane Ignition

 

high 13's/low 14's- quick street car
low 13's/high 12's- very quick car
low 12- fast

 

I agree with this all. I also agree with the previous post.


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89 RS

STILL Looking For:
An 87 IROC-Z28 350 TPI

 

exactly. i think any car that pushes you back in your seat and accelerates nicely is fast.

 

8 and 9 second street cars are very common here in Detroit. Theres even one guy in a 4th gen convertible Trans Am going mid 9's, in a stock bodied, full interior, full rollcage 4200lb. car. It still has a CD player, power windows, locks, top, keyless entry, etc.

The average "fast" street cars around here runs in the 10's.

My high 13 car is a brick by comparison.



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Mike L.

The Weapon of Choice:
1987 IROC Z 5.7 TPI A4 3.27 Borg-Warner four wheel disc
Mods: 2300-2500 Stall Converter, Shift Kit(GM parts), TPI Specialties Stage 3 PROM, Modified Airbox w/ K&N's, homemade cold air, Relocated MAT sensor, Gutted MAF, 160* thermostat, MSD 6A, Accel 8mm Wires, bypassed TB coolant, Flowmaster 3 chamber single 3" in/out muffler, 3" MAC mandrel intermediate, custom dual !cat Y-pipe. airfoil, ported plenum. !smog, few others I forgot...???

**BOYCOTT LAPEER DRAGWAY**

 

In missouri I'd say 13-12s is quick for street,no spray.A 9 second car around this way would get 100 tickets.Cops don't like racing slicks,nos,gutted emissions equip,no cat and those bars with wheels to keep the rocket from fliping on itself.8-9 sec is insane crazy fast.It would cost more money than most people I know make in a year.But if you got the means then rip it up.

 

I would say the viper twin tubro
http://www.motortrend.com/june01/ttviper/ttviper_f.html <~~little info on it

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1988 Sport Coupe 305 TBI
K&N
Flowmaster 80


Daily driver:
1988 K1500 5.7 4x4 shortbed flowmaster cat-back gutted cat.
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I consider 11 and 12 sec fast but below 10 sec is fast as **** and means you spent some good money