View Poll Results: Which would you rather have?
305 w/ Manual Transmission
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350 w/ Automatic Transmission
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Whats better??? 305 w/Manual OR 350 w/Auto.
#51
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Re: Whats better??? 305 w/Manual OR 350 w/Auto.
305 TPI Manual...winning!
hell of a lot more fun. stock to stock very equal in performance.
I am not into mods, (obviously with low miles) but The whole feel of the car is less polished and more of a muscle car. and since it doesnt have the peanut cam and a better rear (stock) it will hold a auto 5.7 of the same year up to 60 at least.. and that's what matters.
hell of a lot more fun. stock to stock very equal in performance.
I am not into mods, (obviously with low miles) but The whole feel of the car is less polished and more of a muscle car. and since it doesnt have the peanut cam and a better rear (stock) it will hold a auto 5.7 of the same year up to 60 at least.. and that's what matters.
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Car: 89 Camaro Iroc Z
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Re: Whats better??? 305 w/Manual OR 350 w/Auto.
actually sticks do not have there place in drag racing. Every car there with serious horsepower is and automatic...that is a 2 speed powerglide with and air selenoid shifter. out of 200 cars at the strip maybe 10 will be manual, and they will lenkos. not the cute little 5 speeds in the third gen camaro lol. all in all, it is way more fun to grip the steering wheel and try to control 500 hp than it is to to manually shift a 305 haha
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Honestly I dont care about which transmission is more often found at the track. I spend way more time on the road and want a manual trans to use.
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Re: Whats better??? 305 w/Manual OR 350 w/Auto.
You my friend are something special!!! $4000 to stand a chance??? Son you seriously need to do some homework and learn a thing or to about cars before you post up something like that again. I can buy a built T56 for $2195 from the local trans guy which can handle 500 ftlbs of torque!!! If i want to get crazy he can built it to withstand over 700ftlbs for just $2895 compared to your uneducated 4000 dollar guess. !!!!! Nuff said....
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Car: 1985 Camaro Z28
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Re: Whats better??? 305 w/Manual OR 350 w/Auto.
I have a LB9 305 and T-56 combo, its great. Fun to drive and decent fuel economy. It really comes down to personal preference in my opinion. There are pros and cons to each side of the argument.
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You my friend are something special!!! $4000 to stand a chance??? Son you seriously need to do some homework and learn a thing or to about cars before you post up something like that again. I can buy a built T56 for $2195 from the local trans guy which can handle 500 ftlbs of torque!!! If i want to get crazy he can built it to withstand over 700ftlbs for just $2895 compared to your uneducated 4000 dollar guess. !!!!! Nuff said....
#57
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This thread makes me laugh,the OP didnt even ask whats more fun.He wanted hard facts..numbers of what performs better in 0-60 and 1/4 mile.The auto would be more consistent for that.
I got a ls/t56 and a 305/auto cars and I think both are fun in their own way.But if you had a built auto and its a back breaking..teeth jarring kit.You need a trans builder.My built 700R4 with my 383hsr was fun..didnt leak..docile on the street and shifted firm in wot.my builder is also 63 yrs old driving a bbc/auto 1986 cutlass on the street that pulls 8s on spray.Super cool..smart man,but crazy.Anything can be fast..or equally slow in the right..or wrong hands period..while still having fun.
I got a ls/t56 and a 305/auto cars and I think both are fun in their own way.But if you had a built auto and its a back breaking..teeth jarring kit.You need a trans builder.My built 700R4 with my 383hsr was fun..didnt leak..docile on the street and shifted firm in wot.my builder is also 63 yrs old driving a bbc/auto 1986 cutlass on the street that pulls 8s on spray.Super cool..smart man,but crazy.Anything can be fast..or equally slow in the right..or wrong hands period..while still having fun.
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Car: 89 Camaro Iroc Z
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Re: Whats better??? 305 w/Manual OR 350 w/Auto.
Hey dumb ****, it's "a thing or TWO". And the $4000 is not just for the tranny you half wit swine. My "uneducated guess" was factoring in tranny, suspension, tuning, and minor power mods to stand a chance at a track day. You grossly misunderstood and overreacted just the same. Now go grovel like the dog you are.
Anyways were off track like 86 ta said, I am not gonna argue with you.
Both transmissions have there pro's and con's but you need to seriously calm down! Look at the polls and quiet your self okay? You got a 92 Z28 right?
Is it a 305 or 350? Nice car by the way, and have you ever taken it to the local drag strip?
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Hahaha compliment me and make me feel guilty, nice. It's a 350 with the 700R4 of course. Bone stock she ran a best of 14.6 at 96.1 mph on street tires. With full exhaust she ran 14.3 at 97.7 mph. I apologize.
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Re: Whats better??? 305 w/Manual OR 350 w/Auto.
Seriously?? Look at post 52, where you verbally assaulted a dude who didn't say one word towards you. You are WAY too excited on this subject man, just chill out a little bit. Everyone has their preferences, it's not worth sitting here arguing and calling names over, because your not gonna change anybodies minds.
The OP wanted facts on which is faster from the factory in 0-60 and 1/4 mile, and here they are: the 350/auto is faster and has more potential to be even faster, plain and simple. There is no denying, no making excuses, it is just the facts. Nothing left to argue.
The OP wanted facts on which is faster from the factory in 0-60 and 1/4 mile, and here they are: the 350/auto is faster and has more potential to be even faster, plain and simple. There is no denying, no making excuses, it is just the facts. Nothing left to argue.
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Seriously?? Look at post 52, where you verbally assaulted a dude who didn't say one word towards you. You are WAY too excited on this subject man, just chill out a little bit. Everyone has their preferences, it's not worth sitting here arguing and calling names over, because your not gonna change anybodies minds.
The OP wanted facts on which is faster from the factory in 0-60 and 1/4 mile, and here they are: the 350/auto is faster and has more potential to be even faster, plain and simple. There is no denying, no making excuses, it is just the facts. Nothing left to argue.
The OP wanted facts on which is faster from the factory in 0-60 and 1/4 mile, and here they are: the 350/auto is faster and has more potential to be even faster, plain and simple. There is no denying, no making excuses, it is just the facts. Nothing left to argue.
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Car: 1991 Trans Am GTA
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Re: Whats better??? 305 w/Manual OR 350 w/Auto.
https://www.thirdgen.org/rt-camaroiroczvsmustangho-1988
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Here ya go, take a read. The 5.0 was 160 lbs. lighter than the 5.7, and was still slower. The 350 even got better MPG lol. The results will be the same, whether it is GTA or IROC.
https://www.thirdgen.org/rt-camaroiroczvsmustangho-1988
https://www.thirdgen.org/rt-camaroiroczvsmustangho-1988
yah one is faster. that's quite a slam down!!
the op want to know which one was faster to make a choice. he said he really wanted a stick but not if it was slower these cars wld go neck and neck stock and one wld be more fun
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Re: Whats better??? 305 w/Manual OR 350 w/Auto.
.2 seconds different in qtr mile and .3 sec diff 0-60???? really wow yah that means they are not even in the same league! LOL
yah one is faster. that's quite a slam down!!
the op want to know which one was faster to make a choice. he said he really wanted a stick but not if it was slower these cars wld go neck and neck stock and one wld be more fun
yah one is faster. that's quite a slam down!!
the op want to know which one was faster to make a choice. he said he really wanted a stick but not if it was slower these cars wld go neck and neck stock and one wld be more fun
He asked about performance numbers, and as shown in that article, the 350 did EVERYTHING better even if by a small margin, and it did it with a weight disadvantage at that. That is all that is important in this conversation.
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Car: 1992 Chevrolet Camaro Z28
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Re: Whats better??? 305 w/Manual OR 350 w/Auto.
The Manuals are Leading by 2 votes. They are more fun but not more convenient.
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Re: Whats better??? 305 w/Manual OR 350 w/Auto.
Manual is more fun. No doubt. Ive shifted into the mid 10s.
But for racing. No man is ever going to beat a machine. I will never beat a proper setup auto transmission. Im all for manuals.
I have a fully built t56 in my camaro and another one in reserve for a spare.
Everything being equal the auto car will win every time.
On my stalled auto car. I beat a car with more hp. Close to 100rw over mine.
most of the time. its driver mod with manual racers. I hate when excuses fly.
Missed a gear,clutch acting up,no traction.bla,bla,bla
But for racing. No man is ever going to beat a machine. I will never beat a proper setup auto transmission. Im all for manuals.
I have a fully built t56 in my camaro and another one in reserve for a spare.
Everything being equal the auto car will win every time.
On my stalled auto car. I beat a car with more hp. Close to 100rw over mine.
most of the time. its driver mod with manual racers. I hate when excuses fly.
Missed a gear,clutch acting up,no traction.bla,bla,bla
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Re: Whats better??? 305 w/Manual OR 350 w/Auto.
I guess better is subjective to what you want...
I'm sure I could have fun in an auto GN or TTA, and my 5 speed G92 LB9...
If you really want a manual, but don't want to "settle for less power"...
Look in the cars for sale here... many have 350's or 383's with T56 trannys already, at a great savings to doing it yourself....
Rafael
I'm sure I could have fun in an auto GN or TTA, and my 5 speed G92 LB9...
If you really want a manual, but don't want to "settle for less power"...
Look in the cars for sale here... many have 350's or 383's with T56 trannys already, at a great savings to doing it yourself....
Rafael
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At the local, my personal experience, and National level for autocrossing the 350/Auto usually beat the 305/Manual. The L98 motor was coupled with the torque multiplying automatic and could pull off corners a bit better. The L98 was out of air at about 4300. Then came along the 4th gen with better heads and could spin higher rpms and still be productive. Add better gearing and such, the 4th gen improved over 3rd gen on the autocross course. Same on the tracks but some racing limited the engine size so the 305 & 302 were the motors used. Drag Racing, not my expertise. There was one Camaro with a 350 and T-5 that was dominant in autocross and ProSolo in E-Street Prepared class. Great Driver too.
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I had a Formula 350 for a while with the 700r4, loved it but I have way more fun the the 5 speed RS...
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Re: Whats better??? 305 w/Manual OR 350 w/Auto.
I haven't posted on this forum in a very....very...very long time, and I know this is an old post, but here's my take on it.
I would say it all depends on the kind of fun you want to have, and lets not kid ourselves, its all fun. My original F-body was an 84 z28 H.O. that me and my father built up back in the late 90s and by the time we were done with it, it looked exactly like an early 90s z-28 and was a mild terror for imports at the Bradenton Strip here in florida. This car, of course, had a 305 c.i. I've owned a few others since then and I can tell you that its all about preference. Do you want a fun to drive, awesome autocross car, I would go manual, as you can go into a turn, clutch in, downshift and speed out of that turn like crazy and be ready for the next one. You want a killer death sled in the 1/4 mile? go for the 350 with auto trans, because the game there is horsies and gear ratio, and thats what you want. To prove this point, Ive got a 2004 Toyota Celica manual that destroys lots of cars in cornering and accelerating out of corners and its only boasting 180hp from a 1.8 liter inline 4. However, in a drag race, I'd get owned by some cat's Jeep Grand Cherokee with a K&N (It's happened). It really depends on your game of choice and thats why the 3rd gen F-body is so awesome. It's a truly versatile car that will give you awesome performance on either ground, autoX or drag strip. You just have to choose the right configuration for the right challenge. A manual shifted 305 that is built up can kick a lot of booty at the strip, this is true, I've done it and killed fox-bodies. An auto 350 kills even more too. Lets face it, you cant kill 'em all and its all in great fun. If you really wanna kill 'em all, you probably need to be backing it out of a trailer lol. These days I drive a 2013 Mustang GT Premium with 6spd transmission and some mods (YIKES!), but Im going to build myself an awesome 3rd Gen F-body again. I might even go 305 manual, I really like those. I hope this little bit of info helps someone out there. Keep drivin' em!!!
I would say it all depends on the kind of fun you want to have, and lets not kid ourselves, its all fun. My original F-body was an 84 z28 H.O. that me and my father built up back in the late 90s and by the time we were done with it, it looked exactly like an early 90s z-28 and was a mild terror for imports at the Bradenton Strip here in florida. This car, of course, had a 305 c.i. I've owned a few others since then and I can tell you that its all about preference. Do you want a fun to drive, awesome autocross car, I would go manual, as you can go into a turn, clutch in, downshift and speed out of that turn like crazy and be ready for the next one. You want a killer death sled in the 1/4 mile? go for the 350 with auto trans, because the game there is horsies and gear ratio, and thats what you want. To prove this point, Ive got a 2004 Toyota Celica manual that destroys lots of cars in cornering and accelerating out of corners and its only boasting 180hp from a 1.8 liter inline 4. However, in a drag race, I'd get owned by some cat's Jeep Grand Cherokee with a K&N (It's happened). It really depends on your game of choice and thats why the 3rd gen F-body is so awesome. It's a truly versatile car that will give you awesome performance on either ground, autoX or drag strip. You just have to choose the right configuration for the right challenge. A manual shifted 305 that is built up can kick a lot of booty at the strip, this is true, I've done it and killed fox-bodies. An auto 350 kills even more too. Lets face it, you cant kill 'em all and its all in great fun. If you really wanna kill 'em all, you probably need to be backing it out of a trailer lol. These days I drive a 2013 Mustang GT Premium with 6spd transmission and some mods (YIKES!), but Im going to build myself an awesome 3rd Gen F-body again. I might even go 305 manual, I really like those. I hope this little bit of info helps someone out there. Keep drivin' em!!!
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