VS me......my friend just got this and wants to have a showdown. what do these things run

 

He'll kill you. Sorry to say but us v6 cars can't hang with newer lighter v6 cars. And grand am's are quick and I'd say could give some tpi cars a good run. Don't fret tho, your car is cooler then his!

 

Yeah i have to agree w/ elevario, he would kill you. My friend has a 2000 grand am gt, and it has some pick up, it could give a lot of V8 3rd gens a run for their money, with the exception of the 5 speeds and 350's.

 

Oh yea the Grand Am is a GT too, so u think i have no chance even after my mods which include CAI,Exhaust,and ignition?
I know the Grand Am has 175hp stock.

 

Id say no chance pretty much covers it

 

im not the smartest man in the world, but a 2002 grand am will walk all over the 2.8 liter firebird. well, i must admit, i was assuming a few things, i didnt take into account that maybe he could be spotting you some buslengths. if thats the case, who knows. but from a dead stop, you should at least do a nice smokey brake stand while you two are getting ready (you just might intimidate him), at least then you can act like you have alot of heat

 

What the he!!, You talk as if the Grand Am's are fast....

They aren't, they run very high 15's to low 16's my Formula could whoop one any day. Is everyone elses car just that slow or what?

 

correct me if im wrong but the formula isnt crippled with a 2.8 is it? i'm not raggin on 86bird at all, its just that i think the grand am gt would make mincemeat of it.

 

2002 grand am gt ram air coupe

3100lbs, 175hp, 205ft/lbs
expect high 15 1/4mi if it has a clean take off

My friend has the 96 grand am gt and that does low 16 1/4mi

 

the grand am will walk all over the firebird

the grand am is one of the cars i have driven at work, that i can honestly say feels faster than my 3.1 1991

 

I have both cars in question here, a 2.8 Camaro and 3.4 Grand Am.

No doubt about it. The Grand Am will kill the 2.8 Camaro.

 

I know but a couple of people were saying it would run V-8 F-Bodies too, I think not unlees someones V-8 is slow.

 

I guess u guys are right, but can i still smoke my tires infront of him?

 

Im remembering going to the track with my friend in his '92 RS 3.1. He ran mid 17's all day long.

The Grand Am will kill you.

Buy a dry nitrous kit and have fun putting the 2.8 out of its misery.

-peace

 

ummmm we're speaking about 3rd gens here.......most of them were slow

 

What i meant was that the GTP's could give a lot of third gens a run for their money, the supercharged ones are decently quick.

 

Most irocs and z28's here in tucson, run stock around 15's and really high 14's. I didn't say the grand am could beat them but give them a good run.

 

you will eat his dust sorry... two of my friends raced one time a while back. one had an 86 2.8 and he was by himself. i and two others were in my friends 98 sunfire convertible, we smoked the camaro pretty easy.

 

if the grand am is a GTP = bad idea to race unless ur in a top shape v8....

u can smoke ur tires as much as u wanna ....lol

powerbrakes!!!!

 

Just a little correction for you guys, a GTP is a Grand Prix.

 

I owned a 3.1L 91 Camaro and rented a 3.1L Grand Am for business purposes (not even the 3.4 with ram air) and it woulda crushed my Camaro. You'll get stomped.

BTW- the ram air feature on the Grand Am won't help him at all (not that he'll need the help to beat you). There's a big hole cut in the air box of the Ram Air G/A's that negates any ram air effect from the front-facing scoop. Duct tape the hole in the air box closed and the ram air will really be functional.

 

ok, the ga will beat the 2.8-theres about 500-1000 lb difference first off (f-body being heavier), and second and most important the hp difference- stock ga's come w/ 175, and the ram air would help it (a little as mentioned before)
and yea, a gtp is a grand prix; the ga your referring to was a gts-verrrrrrrrryyyyyyy rare!! 250 hp!!! its even faster then the gtp grand prix!
i used to own a 92 ga w/ the 3.3- 160 hp (came w/ 150 i believe), and i beat my friends 92 3.1 rs-hope that helps-

a little off sub. here, but wasn't there a gtx grand prix-i could have sworn i saw one with a hood scoop?!?!?!

 

i would agree that most 3rd gens are slow...but you have to remeber the point of them. I purchased my 90' Formula about a month ago. I got it for $800. It runs perfectly, has a working 5-speed and all ive done is some simple work so far. It has the LO3, so its not that fast...but remeber the $/hp factor. THe fact that with my open element, weight stripping, new tires and a hooker catback, i can beat $17,000 civic Si's all day (been done before). My car calculates to about $1200 right now...with the extra $15,800 i saved...my car could be a 12 second monster. Remember that my friends...thats why we love them so much.