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Old Oct 6, 2009 | 11:38 PM
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trick flow vs AFR

Anyone tried both TFs and AFRs?

am looking at an AFR 190 vs TF G2s

seems that TFs are 20% less than AFRs and make similar flow numbers.
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Old Oct 12, 2009 | 01:56 PM
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Re: trick flow vs AFR

Originally Posted by palric
Anyone tried both TFs and AFRs?

am looking at an AFR 190 vs TF G2s

seems that TFs are 20% less than AFRs and make similar flow numbers.
the AFR 180's flow more then the trick flows 195's, so more tq and more hp out of the AFR's, but then again I might be biast
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Old Oct 12, 2009 | 02:13 PM
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Re: trick flow vs AFR

I run the TFs and I like them. That said what are you putting them on?
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Old Oct 12, 2009 | 03:44 PM
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Re: trick flow vs AFR

ya I have a used set of trick flows sitting on the garage floor, they werent a bad head, defenetly better then the edelbrock and such, they would defenetly be my number 2 choice
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Old Oct 12, 2009 | 07:57 PM
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Re: trick flow vs AFR

I Picked up my first set of trickflow twisted Heads back in 93/94. sent them to AFR to be gone over. ran fantastic...only ran them for 7 years. . now that the car has been sitting for the last 7 years..im having them gone over and new springs installed for the Cam (mech roller).. they did every thing i wanted them to.. but mine are the 18/23.. and opend up even more by AFR...

Ya i like them..

TOOK IT OUT OF IT'S BOX AND KNOCKED THE DUST OFF IT!
been sitting for the last 7 years!!
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Old Oct 12, 2009 | 09:55 PM
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Re: trick flow vs AFR

Do u have a closer picture of the ground effects? That looks kool
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Old Oct 18, 2009 | 01:13 AM
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Re: trick flow vs AFR

Originally Posted by Hawk92z-TDZ
the AFR 180's flow more then the trick flows 195's, so more tq and more hp out of the AFR's, but then again I might be biast
SO for the mighty 305 with the ZZ4 cam. Should "The Project" run the TFS or the AFR's?? Bear in mind compression loss with the AFR's.
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Old Oct 18, 2009 | 12:37 PM
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Re: trick flow vs AFR

Originally Posted by DomsIROC
SO for the mighty 305 with the ZZ4 cam. Should "The Project" run the TFS or the AFR's?? Bear in mind compression loss with the AFR's.

305 has wrong bore size.

if I was keeping the 305 (which I have done before on previous cars) the lesson I have learned is don't do heads, put money to a Procharger instead. Make sure the air flow in and out is excellent and make sure you have a decent cam.

There are 6,876,213 posts telling you the 305 is the wrong motor to build. do a 350 instead. Guess I am number 6,876,214...
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Old Oct 18, 2009 | 12:38 PM
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Re: trick flow vs AFR

Originally Posted by Hawk92z-TDZ
ya I have a used set of trick flows sitting on the garage floor, they werent a bad head, defenetly better then the edelbrock and such, they would defenetly be my number 2 choice
naturally I have to ask -- how much for the used heads?
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Old Oct 21, 2009 | 01:08 PM
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Re: trick flow vs AFR

Originally Posted by DomsIROC
SO for the mighty 305 with the ZZ4 cam. Should "The Project" run the TFS or the AFR's?? Bear in mind compression loss with the AFR's.
Even thoguh i'd suggest building a 383 or bigger (350's are for chicks) just kidding

If your stuck on a 305, trick flow does make a specific 305 head, were as the AFR's are for 350's and up, the valves are too big on the AFR's for a 305 with the lift of a zz4 cam. AFR used to make a 305 head, but its been long discontinued
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Old Oct 21, 2009 | 01:13 PM
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Re: trick flow vs AFR

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naturally I have to ask -- how much for the used heads?
NFS, sorry, not sure what I'll use them on, but no sence loosing $ on them when they are still a good head

They ran 12's N/A bolted on a 406ci in a Monty Carlo with a Magnum 292 cam, so as I said, not bad heads by any means, I just find/like the AFR's much better
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Old Oct 21, 2009 | 03:33 PM
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Re: trick flow vs AFR

Wll get a few close shots of the ground effects.

ok payed for my eng in full today 11.2.1 Mech roller 427cid small block.
had to upgrade to AFR heads Bigger runners for the CID.(220+)
be about 5 weeks out im told so ill look for it 8 weeks from now..lol

this is a street eng 236/242 @50 602/608 lift mech roller..
(dont think it will be to bad with this CID)

lets see how the Rat in a Mouse jacket. works out..

going to bolt on all my other old parts
Accel supper ram/1000cfm
sportsmen fogger (180hp hit)
36 lbs injtrs (new)
petjackson GD
hooker 2210's cc (getting rid of the SLP's 1 3/4 ss)

some things might not stay the same.. in 8 weeks..

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Old Oct 21, 2009 | 05:14 PM
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a few close up shots for ya Hawk

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Old Dec 18, 2009 | 01:53 PM
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Re: trick flow vs AFR

I think I speak for everyone when I say a burnout pic is in order after the car has been locked in its cage for 7yrs....time to remind the neighbors how big a patch that beast can do lol
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