i went to menards and got a 5" dia. PVC pipe elbow and cut the bottom of the air box out where the filters sit. then i cut out all that plastic underneath that and ran the tube so it sits in the grill where the optional fog lights would go. i painted the ends black so u wouldn't see ugly white PVC in the grill. here are the pix

 

I don't see pics you liar.

 

I am going to report you to the moderates for a miss leading post

 

it won't post the pix, i'm having probs w/ them, i'll post one at a time so it's smaller files maybe that'll work

 

Dude i can't wait to see the pics. I got a 91 Z28 1LE Camaro and would like to do a simple ram air too. Later.

 

Here's my $9 version.............you got me beat.

 

Here is my mod...

 

I had to move my battery to the other side, and sits in nice, Makes a nice hisssing sound too!!!

 

paint it black, right mark/?

 

Eventually it will be black..or something else wacky
Aj

 

hopefuly this pic worked

 

Having trouble posting pics..heres what i do...Take the file from your camera software, open it in MS paint, copy and paste it to a new file name in paint and then post it
Aj

 

Here's a link to the best cold air induction I've seen so far.....

http://87tagta.tripod.com/coldair.htm

 

Hey would this work on an 88 firbird? I want to beat my friend and need some POWEr.

 

I thought it was supposed to be ram air not cold air. Anyways those are inside the engine compartment where the air is much hotter than outside of it. Anyways did you guys pick up any performance gain by doin those cold air mods? Still waitin for the ram air pics. Later.

 

those are not cold air mods
they are still pulling in hot engine air

 

oray777, i'll e-mail u the pix, what is ur e-mail address? i made REAL ram air not CAI. u should see these pix.

 

Actually I beg to differ with you. "Some" of those are indeed bad examples of cold air induction because of where the filter is located (ie: too close to the radiator where it will pull hot air off the radiator). However, a CAI setup like the one in the link that I posted is indeed a CAI setup due to the location of the filter. Having the filter that close to the fender opening will indeed pull in the cold air. In my opinion though I do think the filter should be moved just a bit closer to the fender opening. Traveling down the highway, especially at high speeds, the hot air from the engine will be traveling towards the back of engine compartment and even out the heat extractors for those of us with TA hoods. The air in the front corners of the engine compartment, near the fender openings, will be much cooler than air elsewhere in the engine compartment. Also, having the filter closer to the fender opening will pull in colder air than where the filter was located from the factory, which was too close to the radiator where it pulls in hot air coming off the radiator near the filter.

As a matter of fact, the CAI setup I have linked to will definitely pull in colder air than the more expensive aftermarket CAI setups on the market, such as that SLP setup you're using. That setup is no better than the properly done home made versions.

 

i don't get it
the box that contains my air filter is directly riveted to the fender opening and sealed
the only air that comes in is from the fender well.
the set up pulls in absolutly no engine air even while not moving

 

The temp of the air going through the filter is not important while the car is not moving. While the car is moving down the road is when the temp of the air through the filter is going to matter most. At those speeds, the hot air in the engine compartment is traveling from front to back as I mentioned earlier. There will be very minimal "engine air", if any, in the area of the filter near the fender opening. Not enough to make a difference between your setup and the home made versions. SLP added this nice little "air isolator" for two simple reasons. 1. it looks better and 2. it makes people think it's better than a home made setup so they'll go out and spend their money on the SLP setup instead of spending a fraction of the cost on a home made setup. It's all about the $$$ and that's what SLP is in the business for. Besides, if someone really wanted too they could fabricate an "air isolator" like the one in the SLP setup for next to nothing and still spend only a fraction of the cost.

I don't expect you to see logic in any of what I've typed due to the need, in your mind, to justify the fact that you spent that much money on something that you could have done yourself and would have been just as effective for less cost. I just hope that someone else who is thinking about buying that SLP setup, will read this post before hand and realize that they don't have to spend so much to get so little.

 

Heres a pic of my unfinished CAI, I am going to build an aluminum box for the filter and I am cutting a NACA duct into my hood. cheers, Bob

 

it's all about the $$$
by the way i have a k&n cone filter if anybody wants it.
it's the kind that goes right over the throttle body. i decided not to go w/ the map setup and kept and kept the maf
by the way where does the air that flows over the hot radiator go?
oh yeah i remember.

 

i'm done

 

Convert them to jpg.. bmp's never
get small enough to attach

 

The picture size is too large to post dude. I tried to post them too. Thanks for the pics. BTW those are 5 inch size PVC plastic elbows? Do they have larger size maybe up to 8 inch?

 

email them to me and i'll shrink the picture size and rename it for you

 

yes those are 5" i used, it may look like u can fit bigger from the top view, but u will never be able to fit any bigger in the fog lamp/grill opening. so 5-6" is as big as what's gonna fit.


and 89prochargd, i'll e-mail em to ya, hopefully u can post em, thanx

 

The 220 degree hot air flowing through the radiator goes where?
Staight into your cone filter right?
The under hood air is HOT, can you say HAI (Hot Air Induction).
To get cold air, you need to pull air from the outside of the engine
compartment.

 

chevy can u send me pics of the ram air set up i want to do it to my iroc thanks or anyone else that has pics of ram air

 

Exactly. The hot air flowing over the radiator goes straight back when traveling down the road. Considering the filter sits directly to the left (or right) of the radiator on any properly setup CAI induction, the filter will see very very little of that hot air, if any at all.

I must say, Mean 5.7, sticking with the MAF is the smartest thing you've done in my opinion. The cone on the very end of the TB is a horrible idea for obvious reasons.

 

i hate to say it . . .but those pics that I see aren't "cold air intakes"- most of you guys are still breathing in the engine compartments hot air . . . I'll take a pic of mine tomorrow and show you guys!!!

 

G H E T T O.

 

Saturn5 and TransAm87 have the right idea and there setups will be better than stock for sure but BlazinOR still has his filter sitting right next to the radiator. Not good.

 

Thank-you, I will be making a scoop that will be bringing cold air into my fender wall this weekend, along w/ a new O2 sensor, AFPR and ported plenum
Thanks
AJ

 

chevy power, send me the pics of your ram air mod, i wanna see it! my email is njdevilz27@aol.com thanks

 

Except that what you can't see is the 5" diameter hole in the radiator core support that the snout of the filter gets fed by at speed.

It's not optimal, you're right, but it lowered my intake air temp by 60*.

 

Awwwww...you make me feel all warm and fuzzy inside

That's my site and my filtration setup. And for all those that think it's hurting performance...long live the butt dyno cause that's all that matters to me. The new filtration setup (I'm saying this for all those who think I'm ) is great in my opinion and I wouldn't ever spend the $$$ for the SLP version.

86TpiTransAm: Replace that ugly and potentially harmful PVC as soon as possible. The plenum and thottle body get very hot and may (it did on my PVC setup) cause it to melt and possibly get sucked into the engine. Go and get an aluminum pipe setup. (Try the ***** shops - they've got those pipes in volume and will probably be surprised you want one). If you have time, go ahead and do the throttle body coolant bypass. It heats up the throttle body which in turn heats up that intake. The colder the better, right?

BTW: I'm still happy with my setup and have recently cleaned the filter. Wouldn't change if somebody payed me. Well....maybe. But it's nice to see that someone has attempted my intake and actually finished it. Send me some pics in the email and I'll see about putting them on the website when I can get another copy of FrontPage.

 

here are chevy powers ram air pics (hope it works)

 

I will take pics if anyone is interested in my method.

The problem I see with the pics above is that it cuts down on filter airspace by using a 5" hole where there was originally a much larger area beforehand.

I totally cut the bottoms out of my airbox leaving the entire filter area exposed on the bottom. I then cut two 6" holes in the splash deflector under the airbox, leaving an almost direct shot of air into the bottoms of the filters.

I will take pics and show anyone thats interested.

 

Dude, seriously, why not just buy a used SLP CAI on ebay if you're that poor and get something that works and looks good? That hissing sound is unfiltered air entering the engine.

 

"That hissing sound is unfiltered air entering the engine."

Could be...might not be. Mine's sealed up and I didn't use PVC, and it still hisses. It's the filter making the sound, but it could be a hole. Don't go and call it something it might not be.

 

That's an interesting concept BlazinOR. Didn't realize you had the other stuff done. That's definitely something "usable" with a little work.

3.1EyeCandy... I've had your site bookmarked for quite some time now. I don't have that setup on my car yet, and I won't be doing the PVC. When I do it the first time, I'm going to do it right.

BTW... I'm the guy that emailed you awhile back and gave you all that information on the Borg Warner 9 bolt rear ends like you have in your car. You might remember me by that conversation.

 

is it possible to have the factory foglights in place with the ram air openings behind them?

 

You could run the scoop(s) behind the fog lights and back a bit and run an angled scoop that hangs a little lower than the fog lights and picks up the air while going down the road.

 

thanks for the info
i'll try and make my ram air this weekend maybe.

 

My K&N doesn't make a hissing noise, but that could be because it's inside a SLP cold air box. I've seen those metal elbows at Sears though when I was building a ventilation system for my computer and those are definitely not vacuum tight.

 

First and foremost: my site makes no mention of ever using those metal elbows. Welded aluminum pipe is all I used for the ducting (along with an existing plastic elbow that fits to the MAF and a Rubber plumbing connection sealed at both ends with the metal rings). So is it air-tight? yes. Would a PVC setup be airtight? NO. You have to glue it to be airtight and then it could melt. Would the metal Dryer Duct be airtight? I don't have a clue. But who really cares??? Let's all just get along and agree to disagree because we all love to drive GTAs. That's what really matters, right? :lala:

"BTW... I'm the guy that emailed you awhile back and gave you all that information on the Borg Warner 9 bolt rear ends like you have in your car. You might remember me by that conversation."
-I remember. Send me some pics of your new "filtration setup" and I'll save them for when I can update the site.

 

I will after I get it installed this summer.