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Old May 26, 2002 | 08:49 PM
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PCV Valve, Oil in the Plenum? Hmmm

Wondering if a cheap PCV Valve like a Fram would cause oil to be in the Plenum due to incorrect spring pressure?
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Old May 26, 2002 | 09:09 PM
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Frams are usually not cheap. If the Fram PCV is leaking oil into your plenum then I'm gonna have to go out and get another brand since I'm using a fram PCV.
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Old May 26, 2002 | 10:08 PM
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You will get some oil slime build up in the plenum because the pcv
pulls oil vapor from the valve cover and it generaly condenses
on the inside of the plenum causing the sooty stuff you see.

If you are getting actual oil up there then yes, the PCV is holding
open too much. You would be supprised at the number of different
valves there are. Best bet would be to use a genuine GM unit.
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Old May 26, 2002 | 10:12 PM
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The way it was explained to me goes something like this. A PCV Valve has to have "x" amount of spring tension and the amount of tension is dependant on the type of motor hence the need for so many various Valves. Going with Cheaper PCV Valves they do focus as much on the correct amount of tension on the spring as as it's a "fit". By not having the correct amount of tension on the spring can cause the valve to not close completely under heavy vaccum (I might have that backwards) which can cause the vaccum to pull up into the Plenum along with some oil. As I said I might have gotten it backwards as I'm no mechanic but it sounds logical to me especially after knowing what I do about their Oil Filters. Any Comments?
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Old May 26, 2002 | 10:15 PM
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Originally posted by Swapmaster
You will get some oil slime build up in the plenum because the pcv
pulls oil vapor from the valve cover and it generaly condenses
on the inside of the plenum causing the sooty stuff you see.

If you are getting actual oil up there then yes, the PCV is holding
open too much. You would be supprised at the number of different
valves there are. Best bet would be to use a genuine GM unit.
LOL you posted as I was typing my post. So I was right but you explained it better. Could this be what is causing oil to get on my IAC?

John
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Old May 27, 2002 | 12:06 AM
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Are you getting oil standing on the plenum floor? You can expect
some oil film, that is normal.
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Old May 27, 2002 | 12:15 AM
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As you stated it's more of a film that has coated the inside of the plenum and the IAC motor. About every month or so I have to remove my IAC and clean it due to the oil residue around the tip which causes me to sometimes have a rollercoaster idle. After I talked to my brother who ownes a Napa Auto Care Center and he was telling me about the PCV issue above I started giving it some thought as it might be a culprit.
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Old May 27, 2002 | 12:28 AM
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That sounds like it. If you need to clean it every month it's not
working properly. Get a real Delco one and you should be ok.

You may also want to check the EGR operation. That can also soot
up the IAC.
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Old May 27, 2002 | 12:35 AM
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Thanks Swapmaster you have been a big help. I replaced my EGR Valve, EGR Temp Sensor, and EGR Solenoid about 5 months ago. I agree that changing the PCV Valve to a AC Delco version might help if not eliminate the problem. If not it's no big loss. Thanks Again.

John
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Old May 27, 2002 | 12:59 AM
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Since you have taken the EGR question out of the equasion the
Delco unit WILL take care of it.

Take it easy.
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Old May 27, 2002 | 09:56 PM
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what about just eliminating the PCV valve and putting a breather on the valve cover and plugging the hole on the intake
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Old May 27, 2002 | 10:43 PM
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so are you guys saying that if your PCV valve isn't working properly, then that could afect my EGR valve??????



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Old May 27, 2002 | 11:27 PM
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Originally posted by BOTTLEDZr28
what about just eliminating the PCV valve and putting a breather on the valve cover and plugging the hole on the intake
That's a good question and I didn't know the answer either so I thought I'd search for more info and this is what I found.

http://www.hastingsfilter.com/engine...tsb_94-2r.html

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Old May 27, 2002 | 11:33 PM
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Originally posted by gmanrs70
so are you guys saying that if your PCV valve isn't working properly, then that could afect my EGR valve??????



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There is no mention of the PCV Valve effecting the EGR. Swapmaster was saying that the EGR can effect the IAC.
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