New ETs with DRs
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Car: 89 Iroc
Engine: 383
Transmission: 700R4
Axle/Gears: 3.45
New ETs with DRs
Previous best was 13.22 @ 109.44MPH with 2.22 60ft
with an 1/8 of 8.669 @ 84.92 MPH
First run:
60 ft: 1.889
1/8: 8.336 @ 83.996 MPH
1/4: 12.928 @ 107.893 MPH
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Second run:
60 ft: 1.997
1/8: 8.424 @ 84.410 MPH
1/4: 12.994 @ 108.665 MPH
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Third run (last):
60 ft: 1.933
1/8: 8.212 @ 85.831 MPH
1/4: 12.738 @ 108.048
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I had a rocker come loose during the 3rd run so I went straight home.
I was hoping for better 60ft times but I guess I need to do a longer burnout. I'm still used to cleaning off street tires for just a few seconds.
My first run I actually did the longest burnout.
I did bump up the FP about 2 psi before my last run and that seemed to help.
with an 1/8 of 8.669 @ 84.92 MPH
First run:
60 ft: 1.889
1/8: 8.336 @ 83.996 MPH
1/4: 12.928 @ 107.893 MPH
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Second run:
60 ft: 1.997
1/8: 8.424 @ 84.410 MPH
1/4: 12.994 @ 108.665 MPH
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Third run (last):
60 ft: 1.933
1/8: 8.212 @ 85.831 MPH
1/4: 12.738 @ 108.048
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I had a rocker come loose during the 3rd run so I went straight home.
I was hoping for better 60ft times but I guess I need to do a longer burnout. I'm still used to cleaning off street tires for just a few seconds.
My first run I actually did the longest burnout. I did bump up the FP about 2 psi before my last run and that seemed to help.
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Hey Danny,
I have found the following burnout routine to be the best for my BFG DRs....
First air those DRs down to 18psi. Start your burnout in first gear. Shift to second. After shifting into second look in your side mirrors and MAKE SURE you have smoke coming from both tires. Once you have smoke coming from both tires then count to 5 ... 1-mississippi, 2-mississippi, etc. It might look stupid but it has helped me seriously hook up. In times where I couldn't hook up I have aired them down 1PSI at a time (down to 15psi at the lowest). The burnout along with the pressure changes will work.
What stall converter are you running? With 109mph you should be able to hit 12.5's.
Tim
I have found the following burnout routine to be the best for my BFG DRs....
First air those DRs down to 18psi. Start your burnout in first gear. Shift to second. After shifting into second look in your side mirrors and MAKE SURE you have smoke coming from both tires. Once you have smoke coming from both tires then count to 5 ... 1-mississippi, 2-mississippi, etc. It might look stupid but it has helped me seriously hook up. In times where I couldn't hook up I have aired them down 1PSI at a time (down to 15psi at the lowest). The burnout along with the pressure changes will work.
What stall converter are you running? With 109mph you should be able to hit 12.5's.
Tim
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I am still running the stock stall converter for now
My lowest tire pressure was 22psi.
Thanks for the tips on the burnout :hail:
My lowest tire pressure was 22psi.
Thanks for the tips on the burnout :hail:
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I do the EXACT same thing Traxion said. It works well.
Get yourself a Vigilante!
Good times, you're on your way to low-mid 12's.
Get yourself a Vigilante!
Good times, you're on your way to low-mid 12's.
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Danny,
DEFINITELY get a Vigilante under that car (2800-3000 would be ideal). Your 60ft times will drop to 1.6x. That's an extra 0.45 in the quarter! You need that converter!
Tim
DEFINITELY get a Vigilante under that car (2800-3000 would be ideal). Your 60ft times will drop to 1.6x. That's an extra 0.45 in the quarter! You need that converter!
Tim
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Don't you think a 2800-3000 would be too high for a 383/SuperRam?
I see that Buckeyeroc has a 2200 with a similar combo. I was toying with the idea of a 2200 or 2400 stall. How much are those going for now and is Vigilante the one to go with?
I see that Buckeyeroc has a 2200 with a similar combo. I was toying with the idea of a 2200 or 2400 stall. How much are those going for now and is Vigilante the one to go with?
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I've been told by vette guys with this combo that 3000 stall is ideal at the track. But I can't hook on the street with the low stall I have, so raising it would only make it tougher. And I do use the dr's on the street.
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Hmmm, OK thanks. I don't want it to be too unstreetable though and I really don't want to save for a new rear end (have Borg-Warner 9 bolt with 3.45 now). I'll shop around for prices.
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Danny,
2800 is absolutely, positively VERY streetable so long as you go for a quality converter like the Vigilante. In fact, my 3600 stall is SOOOOOOOO streetable that I wish I would have got a 4000 stall. I originally had a 2800 stall when I had the LTR setup and it was incredibly tight at part throttle and unbelievable at WOT. You will NOT be disappointed. It's a beautiful device. You'll love it. Do a search on TGO and you'll find all that you are looking for. Everyone with a PI Vigilante has been incredibly happy with the outcome. I went from a 13.0 on a 1.99 60ft to an IMMEDIATE 1.71 60ft. These were back to back with no changes. Get it and definitely go with at least the 2800. Don't go lower.
Tim
2800 is absolutely, positively VERY streetable so long as you go for a quality converter like the Vigilante. In fact, my 3600 stall is SOOOOOOOO streetable that I wish I would have got a 4000 stall. I originally had a 2800 stall when I had the LTR setup and it was incredibly tight at part throttle and unbelievable at WOT. You will NOT be disappointed. It's a beautiful device. You'll love it. Do a search on TGO and you'll find all that you are looking for. Everyone with a PI Vigilante has been incredibly happy with the outcome. I went from a 13.0 on a 1.99 60ft to an IMMEDIATE 1.71 60ft. These were back to back with no changes. Get it and definitely go with at least the 2800. Don't go lower.
Tim
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Danny,
Without a doubt ... hands down ... the Vigilante is THE best modification I have ever done to my car. Ever. It increased the driveability of my car as well as the performance. After I did heads and cam (oh so long ago) by car was a dog. I lost a lot of torque. I went from 13.6's @ 102mph to 13.0's @ 108mph. BUT, my 60ft was slower ... proving the fact I lost torque. I did the vigilante and WOW ... the most awesome mod I have ever done.
Tim
Without a doubt ... hands down ... the Vigilante is THE best modification I have ever done to my car. Ever. It increased the driveability of my car as well as the performance. After I did heads and cam (oh so long ago) by car was a dog. I lost a lot of torque. I went from 13.6's @ 102mph to 13.0's @ 108mph. BUT, my 60ft was slower ... proving the fact I lost torque. I did the vigilante and WOW ... the most awesome mod I have ever done.
Tim
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Originally posted by rockind78
I thought I remember Ed liking his??? I was really considering one for the Chevelle, but I can't seem to find 'em for the 200R4. I guess they don't make 'em.
I thought I remember Ed liking his??? I was really considering one for the Chevelle, but I can't seem to find 'em for the 200R4. I guess they don't make 'em.
Buckeye....I think I mentioned this before there is no such thing as a Vigilante 2200?? The lowest stall is around a 2400. If you can look up the part # from when you purchased the converter I can tell you exactly which stall you have. I would bet you have a #259315 or #259415 which will flash approximately 2500-2600 with your setup.
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Originally posted by TRAXION
Danny,
Without a doubt ... hands down ... the Vigilante is THE best modification I have ever done to my car. Ever. It increased the driveability of my car as well as the performance.
2800 is absolutely, positively VERY streetable so long as you go for a quality converter like the Vigilante. In fact, my 3600 stall is SOOOOOOOO streetable that I wish I would have got a 4000 stall.
Tim
Danny,
Without a doubt ... hands down ... the Vigilante is THE best modification I have ever done to my car. Ever. It increased the driveability of my car as well as the performance.
2800 is absolutely, positively VERY streetable so long as you go for a quality converter like the Vigilante. In fact, my 3600 stall is SOOOOOOOO streetable that I wish I would have got a 4000 stall.
Tim
Well, he'd never driven anything with a VERY expensive converter like the VIG before either. He drove my truck with a 383 Stealth Ram, CC306 cam, 700r4 and he didn't believe it was 2800-3200 stall until he punched the throttle. When it hit he was amazed. But still, driving it around town is an absolute pleasure. It's not all loose and slipping. It almost seems like a normal converter. It also made tuning it somewhat easier and took some of the harsh shift out of it during normal driving.
Anyway, it's a upgrade I fretted over for months. But instead of buying two or three cheap high stall converters I just bought what was recommended by these guys and for about 5k miles and many hard passes the tranny fluid is still nice and pink with not a hint of burning or overheating. (I do ran a fairly large tranny cooler and have my fans running at 184on, 176off)
Oh, and on the drag radials, I use 275/60/15 BFG DR and do a mild burnout with a couple of short dry hops. In a 4000# pickup with stock rear suspension I get a 1.88 60' time.
I DO wish the stall was a little higher now also but since I bought it second hand/but new, the one free restall isn't an option.
Originally posted by BuckeyeROC
They list the 2004R here: http://www.converter.com/vigilante.htm
They list the 2004R here: http://www.converter.com/vigilante.htm
I do appreciate your taking the time to look. I checked out that first link and didn't see anything. Its nice to know the option is there. You guys seem to reallly dig their products. Thread
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