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From: Scranton, PA/North Brunswick, NJ
Car: 1986 Pontiac Trans Am
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...say I feel like while I've decided to replace my vavle springs, I might as well do a head/valve job on a seperate set of 305 heads instead of the ones I have on the car now, so I can still drive it daily....so I decide to look around for a set of 305 heads for the 86 TPI motor.....my question is.....which year vehicles would work on my 86 motor? If i was to theoretically go ahead and theoretically get these theoretical heads, I'd of course theoretically go ahead and have them magnafluxed, ported and polished with high performance parts. I just need to know what year 305 TPI motors or other motors I could theoretically use them(without any problems ecm or otherwise). Thanks.
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I am pretty sure almost any pre 87(non centerbolt valve cover) 305 heads would work...theoretically :lala:
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Theoretically, the only TPI motors that theoretically used those heads is 85 and 86. I heard some theories that L69 engines (and maybe even some LG4's) may have escaped the factory with them as well.
Theoretically the best idea would be to look up the casting number and get the same kind. IIRC 416 are the last 3 digits.
Theoretically the best idea would be to look up the casting number and get the same kind. IIRC 416 are the last 3 digits.
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I theoretically thank you guys for responding to this theoretical topic and giving me the theoretical information that i would need to theoretically accomplish what is theoretically in my head. Thanks again
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Oh...and theoretically, once I have the new set of heads on, along with a set of Hooker 2055's.....i theoretically should not throw any engine codes, so as long as I let the car "learn" the new, theoretical mods, correct? Because all I'm theoretically doing is providing more theoretical air/exahust flow....is that theoretically correct as well?
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No codes...
I've noticed in some of your posts you seem to be a bit over concerned about affecting ECM control of the engine...you'd be suprised about how much you can actually do without affecting anything.
Worst comes to worst, you drop 200bucks on PROM tuning equipment, and tune it better than it was before.
I've noticed in some of your posts you seem to be a bit over concerned about affecting ECM control of the engine...you'd be suprised about how much you can actually do without affecting anything.
Worst comes to worst, you drop 200bucks on PROM tuning equipment, and tune it better than it was before.
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Originally posted by 8Mike9
No codes...
I've noticed in some of your posts you seem to be a bit over concerned about affecting ECM control of the engine...you'd be suprised about how much you can actually do without affecting anything.
Worst comes to worst, you drop 200bucks on PROM tuning equipment, and tune it better than it was before.
No codes...
I've noticed in some of your posts you seem to be a bit over concerned about affecting ECM control of the engine...you'd be suprised about how much you can actually do without affecting anything.
Worst comes to worst, you drop 200bucks on PROM tuning equipment, and tune it better than it was before.
But following successful completion of the headwork and headers and then siamsed runners, I will probably get into prom burning myself and pick up the software and equipment....i'd really like to learn that and toy with it. Thanks for the response. Supreme Member
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Yeah, I see your concern...but heck, after chasing all that down, you should be good-to-go incase anything pops up
But I feel your pain...before the Internet Age, I was wanting to put in a manual control swith for my fan...wasn't comfortable with the on-off limits...so i checked with a GM mechanic (back about mid to late '89) and he scared me off from it, saying "Oh, you'll mess with the computer...blah, blah,blah..".
Heck, now that's one of the most common cooling mods.

But I feel your pain...before the Internet Age, I was wanting to put in a manual control swith for my fan...wasn't comfortable with the on-off limits...so i checked with a GM mechanic (back about mid to late '89) and he scared me off from it, saying "Oh, you'll mess with the computer...blah, blah,blah..".
Heck, now that's one of the most common cooling mods.
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Originally posted by 8Mike9
Yeah, I see your concern...but heck, after chasing all that down, you should be good-to-go incase anything pops up
But I feel your pain...before the Internet Age, I was wanting to put in a manual control swith for my fan...wasn't comfortable with the on-off limits...so i checked with a GM mechanic (back about mid to late '89) and he scared me off from it, saying "Oh, you'll mess with the computer...blah, blah,blah..".
Heck, now that's one of the most common cooling mods.
Yeah, I see your concern...but heck, after chasing all that down, you should be good-to-go incase anything pops up

But I feel your pain...before the Internet Age, I was wanting to put in a manual control swith for my fan...wasn't comfortable with the on-off limits...so i checked with a GM mechanic (back about mid to late '89) and he scared me off from it, saying "Oh, you'll mess with the computer...blah, blah,blah..".
Heck, now that's one of the most common cooling mods.
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Just make sure you hook up all the ground wires to the heads or you'll be chasing all sorts of random codes.
I've had some pretty off the wall setups run just fine (read: no codes) with the stock programming. Usually when you get a code, something is amiss.
I've had some pretty off the wall setups run just fine (read: no codes) with the stock programming. Usually when you get a code, something is amiss.
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I had a long block 4-bolt main 388 stroker built for my 88' IROC, with GMPP FB Vortec Heads & SDPC Vortec TPI, did the top end myself, including 30lb injectors, SLP 1-3/4" headers, Crane FireBall HI-6s Ignition Holley 255lph fuel pump & AFPR, and all the mods I could think of. I used an 89 Covette ARAP Hot bin, and only changed the base timing, injector flow-rate, and coolant temps for the 170 thermostat and didn't throw a single code on startup.
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Originally posted by madmax
Just make sure you hook up all the ground wires to the heads or you'll be chasing all sorts of random codes.
I've had some pretty off the wall setups run just fine (read: no codes) with the stock programming. Usually when you get a code, something is amiss.
Just make sure you hook up all the ground wires to the heads or you'll be chasing all sorts of random codes.
I've had some pretty off the wall setups run just fine (read: no codes) with the stock programming. Usually when you get a code, something is amiss.
I had a long block 4-bolt main 388 stroker built for my 88' IROC, with GMPP FB Vortec Heads & SDPC Vortec TPI, did the top end myself, including 30lb injectors, SLP 1-3/4" headers, Crane FireBall HI-6s Ignition Holley 255lph fuel pump & AFPR, and all the mods I could think of. I used an 89 Covette ARAP Hot bin, and only changed the base timing, injector flow-rate, and coolant temps for the 170 thermostat and didn't throw a single code on startup.
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not to be too picky but your sig is 15 lines long, you have posted it 6 times in this thread, thats 90 lines of just your sig.
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Originally posted by SweetS10v8
not to be too picky but your sig is 15 lines long, you have posted it 6 times in this thread, thats 90 lines of just your sig.
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I only post my sig once per thread, and if i post again, I edit out my first sig and keep it on my latest post.
not to be too picky but your sig is 15 lines long, you have posted it 6 times in this thread, thats 90 lines of just your sig.
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I only post my sig once per thread, and if i post again, I edit out my first sig and keep it on my latest post.
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