What could I expect with this combo?
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What could I expect with this combo?
Alright guys, i've been out of the thrid gen world for a bit. Even when I was in it, I was in high school, and didn't really know anything about it. Well, lately, i've been thinking about taking on a project. I'd like to find a 91/92 Z28 L98. This is where i'd like my combo...
Beefed up 350, maybe even 355 or 383
Upper and lower Superam
custom cam
AFR heads
long tubes or slp 1 3/4's
T56
Spohn suspension
12 bolt with 3.73's
17x9.5 ZR1's with Nitto dr's
So how would this work? I'm thinking it'd be quite the torque monster, but I also want it to run hard on the highway like my LS1 does.
I have been reading this board now the entire weekend, but as you can see from when I originally registered ('99), I haven't really posted anything. I have been thinking the other intakes might work better than the SR, but I guess I need to research a lot.
The only thing that I am intimidated about is tuning. I've gone through the Mass Air vs Speed Density threads. There is no clear answer to which is easier or better, so I just decided to pick the car I always liked on the outside instead. Basically, I'd like to find a tuner to get the car running (like Rapid), but if I need to learn it, I will.
My buddy has an 89 IROC that went from a AFR/Superram'd 355 with a T5 (originally L98/700) that ran high 12s, to a TT 350 stealth ram T56. I just thought i'd like to have something to run his first combo into the ground, not to mention I miss my IROC soooo bad.
So thanks for any help. I'll probably be more of a browser than a poster, but i'll be here
Beefed up 350, maybe even 355 or 383
Upper and lower Superam
custom cam
AFR heads
long tubes or slp 1 3/4's
T56
Spohn suspension
12 bolt with 3.73's
17x9.5 ZR1's with Nitto dr's
So how would this work? I'm thinking it'd be quite the torque monster, but I also want it to run hard on the highway like my LS1 does.
I have been reading this board now the entire weekend, but as you can see from when I originally registered ('99), I haven't really posted anything. I have been thinking the other intakes might work better than the SR, but I guess I need to research a lot.
The only thing that I am intimidated about is tuning. I've gone through the Mass Air vs Speed Density threads. There is no clear answer to which is easier or better, so I just decided to pick the car I always liked on the outside instead. Basically, I'd like to find a tuner to get the car running (like Rapid), but if I need to learn it, I will.
My buddy has an 89 IROC that went from a AFR/Superram'd 355 with a T5 (originally L98/700) that ran high 12s, to a TT 350 stealth ram T56. I just thought i'd like to have something to run his first combo into the ground, not to mention I miss my IROC soooo bad.
So thanks for any help. I'll probably be more of a browser than a poster, but i'll be here
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sounds like that comb your thinking of could run mid 12's. Good luck.......
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Originally posted by TPI-Formula350-
sounds like that comb your thinking of could run mid 12's. Good luck.......
sounds like that comb your thinking of could run mid 12's. Good luck.......

There has got to be a way to get a n/a tpi car to be fast. I'd really like to see 11's.
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if you go with the LPE 219/219 cam and AFR 195's your combo might break into the high 11's. As far as you just going with an LS1 , yes there alot easier to make turn the times your looking for then a TPI car.....Eric
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Originally posted by TPI-Formula350-
if you go with the LPE 219/219 cam and AFR 195's your combo might break into the high 11's. As far as you just going with an LS1 , yes there alot easier to make turn the times your looking for then a TPI car.....Eric
if you go with the LPE 219/219 cam and AFR 195's your combo might break into the high 11's. As far as you just going with an LS1 , yes there alot easier to make turn the times your looking for then a TPI car.....Eric
I guess i'm just so used to how easy it is to get power from my car. I just really have a soft spot in my heart for a good running 3rd gen.
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There used to be two guys on the boards by the name of ski_down_it and Corky with a superram, afr 190(i think) 406 dancing near 10s on vettes. Corky was actually in the 10s. Granted this is on a 406 and in a vette, and i don't know what cams they had, but it can be done with proper tuning.
Do a search for their screen names to check out their combos and numbers.
JP
Do a search for their screen names to check out their combos and numbers.
JP
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Originally posted by 87350IROC
There used to be two guys on the boards by the name of ski_down_it and Corky with a superram, afr 190(i think) 406 dancing near 10s on vettes. Corky was actually in the 10s. Granted this is on a 406 and in a vette, and i don't know what cams they had, but it can be done with proper tuning.
Do a search for their screen names to check out their combos and numbers.
JP
There used to be two guys on the boards by the name of ski_down_it and Corky with a superram, afr 190(i think) 406 dancing near 10s on vettes. Corky was actually in the 10s. Granted this is on a 406 and in a vette, and i don't know what cams they had, but it can be done with proper tuning.
Do a search for their screen names to check out their combos and numbers.
JP
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That combo should run high 11's. I have the LPE 219/AFR 190/SR combo and run 12.1 with no tuning. If you want more bang for your buck, I'd get the afr 195's, LT1 intake conversion, and something like the TPIS ZZ-X cam, that'll get you running mid 11's fairly easy.
As an LS1 owner myself, it is MUCH easier to make the 346 run fast, just costs a little more.
As an LS1 owner myself, it is MUCH easier to make the 346 run fast, just costs a little more.
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Originally posted by BuckeyeROC
That combo should run high 11's. I have the LPE 219/AFR 190/SR combo and run 12.1 with no tuning. If you want more bang for your buck, I'd get the afr 195's, LT1 intake conversion, and something like the TPIS ZZ-X cam, that'll get you running mid 11's fairly easy.
As an LS1 owner myself, it is MUCH easier to make the 346 run fast, just costs a little more.
That combo should run high 11's. I have the LPE 219/AFR 190/SR combo and run 12.1 with no tuning. If you want more bang for your buck, I'd get the afr 195's, LT1 intake conversion, and something like the TPIS ZZ-X cam, that'll get you running mid 11's fairly easy.
As an LS1 owner myself, it is MUCH easier to make the 346 run fast, just costs a little more.
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Re: What could I expect with this combo?
Originally posted by demonspeed
So how would this work? I'm thinking it'd be quite the torque monster, but I also want it to run hard on the highway like my LS1 does.
The only thing that I am intimidated about is tuning. I've gone through the Mass Air vs Speed Density threads. There is no clear answer to which is easier or better, so I just decided to pick the car I always liked on the outside instead. Basically, I'd like to find a tuner to get the car running (like Rapid), but if I need to learn it, I will.
So how would this work? I'm thinking it'd be quite the torque monster, but I also want it to run hard on the highway like my LS1 does.
The only thing that I am intimidated about is tuning. I've gone through the Mass Air vs Speed Density threads. There is no clear answer to which is easier or better, so I just decided to pick the car I always liked on the outside instead. Basically, I'd like to find a tuner to get the car running (like Rapid), but if I need to learn it, I will.
Is close, close enough, or do you want the tune as close as possible?.
The SD ecms are a generation new, and the code that much better. It takes sophistication to get really nice drivibility, with that means more time tuning, but the result when done right, will be better.
I'd suggest you get the car, then install a SD, and learn how to work with tuning SD. Then build the engine of your dreams.
In the quest for tuning you'll learn how to tune for your exact style of driving, and that in it's self is really meaningful for some folks.
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Re: Re: What could I expect with this combo?
Originally posted by Grumpy
In the quest for tuning you'll learn how to tune for your exact style of driving, and that in it's self is really meaningful for some folks.
In the quest for tuning you'll learn how to tune for your exact style of driving, and that in it's self is really meaningful for some folks.
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