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Old May 3, 2004 | 11:19 PM
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HSR flw file for Dyno 2000

ok I have used Dyno 2000 for Two other motor Builds and it came with in 10 Hp of the actual Dyno Numbers. Now That I am diving into TPI I am Testing engine combos on Dyno 2000 and I am not sure how I would figure the MANIFOLD TYPE because TPI tells Dyno 2000 it is a LTR style and Single Plane has a totaly different Plenum Size.

Any help Please
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Old May 3, 2004 | 11:26 PM
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Well the Holley Stealth Ram is a tunnel ram style intake. So you can use that when figuring out how an engine will run.
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Old May 4, 2004 | 10:58 AM
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i've got all kinds of heads/cam files, but i dont think anyone has made intake files.
that'd be neat if they could/did.
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Old May 4, 2004 | 12:21 PM
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You cant make intake files. There is no adjustment, you only have what they give you. Like said before, the HSR is a tunnel ram. So use tunnel ram....
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Old May 4, 2004 | 11:47 PM
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Which is what I posted earlier in this thread. Use the Tuned Port style for TPI, and the Tunnel Ram setting for the HSR motors.

If you are using a stock throttle body set the maximum air flow at 660cfm for the closest approximation of air flow.
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Old May 5, 2004 | 01:17 AM
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The only down side to that is the flow characteristics are going to be slightly different, because the tunnel ram is intended as a wet flow manifold, and holley adapted it to dry flow/port injection. Not sure if DD2000 takes wet/dry flow into account or not, but it's a definate difference between the two

I was trying to decide the best way to map out my new intake setup with DD2000, and also ended up going with the original type. Since mine is based off of a single plane manifold, that's what I selected. Tuned port is completely inaccurate, since this new setup is "untuned" runner length similar to what you would find on HSR, LT-1 and the like.
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Old May 5, 2004 | 05:40 AM
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Originally posted by FruityOne
Which is what I posted earlier in this thread.
Originally posted by SweetS10v8
Like said before, the HSR is a tunnel ram. So use tunnel ram....
I gave you recognition :hail: lol
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Old May 5, 2004 | 12:40 PM
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Originally posted by SweetS10v8
I gave you recognition :hail: lol
LoL, I was tired, whenI wrote that all I saw was "Like I said..."

One thing to note about DD2000, even when using a roller camshaft in RL, its better to make DD think its a Hyd. Flat tappet camshaft. I heard this from them because for some reason (I don't claim to understand) DD can't handle Hyd. Roller correctly.

Hyd. Roller settings in DD produce MASSIVE torque numbers, much higher than you'd find in RL.
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Old May 5, 2004 | 03:31 PM
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I NEVER use "roller cam" or even "small tube headers with exhaust"

I just use Solid when I am figuring roller cams, and HP manifolds instead of headers because they both give too much...

And when I do that all my desktop drag runs are within .05 of actual!!!
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Old May 7, 2004 | 10:11 PM
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also when figuring the cfm, use 1.5 Hg 2 barrel. because the TB are only 2 barrels.
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Old Nov 25, 2004 | 11:48 PM
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I hate to bring threads this old back to the top, but does anyone have or know where to get cam files other than what is listed? And also where can I get the files for different heads? I would like to use files that are as close as possible if not exact to the setup that I plan to run as well as what I am running now. Thanks.

John
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Old Nov 26, 2004 | 11:49 AM
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Originally posted by White91GTA
I hate to bring threads this old back to the top, but does anyone have or know where to get cam files other than what is listed? And also where can I get the files for different heads? I would like to use files that are as close as possible if not exact to the setup that I plan to run as well as what I am running now. Thanks.

John
What setup are you running? I have a bunch of cam files that I made right off the cam cards.
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Old Nov 26, 2004 | 04:18 PM
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Originally posted by onebinky
What setup are you running? I have a bunch of cam files that I made right off the cam cards.
right now, everything is stock with exception of LT's and a complete custom exhaust.

here is what i am planning to run:

https://www.thirdgen.org/techbb2/sho...hreadid=268596

Thanks for the help.
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Old Nov 26, 2004 | 04:41 PM
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Someone please explain to me what they want in DD2000 when it asks for IVO (BTDC), IVC (ADBC), EVO (BBDC), and EVC (ATDC). I am trying to figure all this out, so if anyone can give me a few pointers I would appreciate it.
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Old Nov 26, 2004 | 07:57 PM
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those four parameters in the cam section are like.... one of the single most important aspects that determine the curve. They're called the valve events given in crankshaft degrees, which determine the shape of the cam.
IVO = Intake Valve Opening (in degrees Before Top Dead Center)
IVC = Intake Valve Closing
EVO = Exhaust Valve Opening
EVC = Exhaust Valve Closing
These are the numbers from which duration and everything else except lift is calculated, and you need to pay attention as to whether they are presented as advertised or .050" lift. The majority of cam specs you see at summit, jegs etc. are given in .050" lift durations.
Advertised duration specs cannot be ignored however, because the difference between the advertised duration, and the .050" duration is an indication of how quickly the valves open. Generally, less variation between the advertised and .050" specs are better in roller cam applications. Just make sure u're valve springs are up to the task.
There's a lot more that can be said about these four very important numbers, but I'll stop now n' everyone else can chime in.
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Old Nov 26, 2004 | 07:59 PM
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1320...thanks for that info. I looked at the Instruction Manual for DD2000 and found that info, but forgot to edit my previous post. Again, thanks for the in depth info.
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Old Nov 27, 2004 | 01:05 PM
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The max lift on all my files is about .480 (Cam is for a 305), so I can't help ya very much
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