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Old May 17, 2004 | 12:25 PM
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Minirammed 383 coming together, what do you think??

It's all falling into place. What do you guys think I will run based on my combination in my signature? Thanks.







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Old May 18, 2004 | 07:53 AM
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No one every seems to reply to my posts???
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Old May 18, 2004 | 07:58 AM
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Motor's looking good!

Until last year, I ran a MiniRammed 383. That was a great combination for me that really kicked butt on the street. I was able to get 11.61@118 out of it with full exhaust including cats.

Keep in mind that a MR likes advanced ignition timing as I found best power with 38 degs total. This was with an 11.0-1 motor.

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Old May 18, 2004 | 08:41 AM
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I could've swore I posted yesterday, cause I saw that you were running a miniram. I guess it didn't go through, hmm... Anyway I think your parts are matched together well for a great tq motor w/ a lot mor top end than the tpi setups. You'll be much happier this way. I ran the hotcam/LTR/zz4 heads and it wouldn't pull up top at all and I switched to the SR and it still felt like it was restricting the hot cam some up top. This was on an old 355 and not a 383.

I think if your rings seal good and the engine was built properly and all the clearances were checked, you should run bottom 12's when everything is perfect.
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Old May 20, 2004 | 08:27 PM
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Car: 1990 IROC-Z
Engine: 355 TPIS Mini Ram, Vortech R-Trim
Transmission: 700r4
Axle/Gears: 3.73 Strange S60
camarojoe I see that you are using a zz-x cam, how do you like it? I have a zz-9 right now and when i get to my rebuild I thought about getting that cam.
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Old May 20, 2004 | 11:17 PM
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Car: 91 Z28
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I love the ZZ-X. This isn't a street cam by any means as it has a killer lope and only gets around 13 mpg around town driving easy. The plus to the gas issue is that I do get 19mpg on the highway going 70mph with 3.73's. If you go about 60mph it gets about 21mpg. Is your thirdgen your daily driver? If not I'd highly recommend the ZZ-X or a comparable Comp custom grind. The Comp cams are cheaper and will make the same power. Ask HiTech5, he's had great success with the Comp cams. The mini-ram really shines when going with a big HR cam. They're made for each other. If streetability is a major concern then the mini-ram probably isn't going to be the best choice for an intake especially with an auto. Your intake can work with a mild cam like the zz-9, but that just wouldn't be as fun as a cam that would pull to 6500.
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Old May 21, 2004 | 12:03 AM
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Car: 88GTAnotchbac/91 -Z/66 Chevelle
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Transmission: Pro built 700r4's
mini ram

Nice set up. Let me know how good them Nittos hook on your car.
Did you have any work done to your heads or are they just bolt ons?
You shouldnt have a problem running mid 12's possibly better.
with a little 50 or 75 shot you will easily be knocking down some low 12's
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Old May 21, 2004 | 12:05 AM
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I know what you mean man, I have a zz-9 setup with the miniram and a r-trim vortech, it sucks in the street becuase it wants to rev up there before you actually feel something. I think i will switch to the zz-x and see how it goes from there, I do have a 700r4 with a non-lockup 2800 stall, and i think with that cam it should be great in the street. What are you using for a ecm?
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Old May 21, 2004 | 06:30 AM
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Re: mini ram

Originally posted by robsgta
Nice set up. Let me know how good them Nittos hook on your car.
Did you have any work done to your heads or are they just bolt ons?
You shouldnt have a problem running mid 12's possibly better.
with a little 50 or 75 shot you will easily be knocking down some low 12's
Yes I do have some porting to the valve seats, intake ports, and exhaust ports. Alot of material was taken out, so they should flow nicely. As for nitrous, I forgot to put in my sig that I have a NX EFI Wet Kit adjustable to 150hp waiting to be installed!
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Old May 21, 2004 | 01:37 PM
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Re: Minirammed 383 coming together, what do you think??

Originally posted by speed88
It's all falling into place. What do you guys think I will run based on my combination in my signature? Thanks.








1988 Trans Am GTA: 383 stoker - ATI damper, Billet Underdrive pullies, Eagle 4340 Crank, Eagle H-beam rods, Cloyes Double Roller Timing Chain, Stewart High Flow Water pump, Weisco Flat-top pistons, LT4 Hotcam, WP Torquer S/R heads (ported and plained), 1.6 GMPP roller rockers, TPiS Miniram, TPiS Prom, 24lb SVO injectors, BBK 52mm tb, MSD 6A, MSD Pro Billet distributor, MSD 8.5mm wires, MSD coil, ported MAF, K&N cone filter, Edelbrock Jet Hot Ceramic Coated headers, !Cat, Flowmaster 3" cat-back, TCI 3000 Converter, B&M power clutch pack, B&M shift kit, B&M servo, SFC's, Spohn LCA's, Spohn LCA brackets, Lakewood DS loop, Eibach Sportlines, Lakewood Panhard Bar, KYB shocks and struts, Nitto 555R's. That's it......I think!
Well I think it is going to be a Killer set up but I have a few questions. It seems to me that you went with a pretty Hefty Bottom end and left the upper end hanging a little. ]don't get me wrong this is a killer engine, just giving some constructive cirtisim.

I Personally Would of went With CompCams Pro Magnum RR's instead of the GMPP roller rockers,

WP Torquer S/R heads (ported and plained) Not sure what your flow # are but a set of AFR would of provided a Little more UFFFF to this killer Combo

TPiS Prom Not sure what level Prom you bought but You could of spent the same amount of money and a little more time and Been e to Custom Tune your own Prom, With Items like AutoProm and the PROMinator you could even do it on the fly and been able to dial and tune the engine better than TPIS Best Guess.

Just my .02
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Old May 21, 2004 | 04:04 PM
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Car: 67 Chevy, 2000 Pontaic GTP
Engine: 415SBC Holley Stealth Ram
Transmission: 700R4
I am curriuos to the setup at how much power you figure this will pull, I am also not familiar with moding a stock style ECM being I am running the Comander 950 with the HSR. But without the NOS I would say you should be somewhere around 400+HP and to my calculations the 24lb injectors would be stretching them a little. Oh and I would have probally gone with the 58mm TB. Feel free to put me in my place if I am wrong.
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Old May 22, 2004 | 06:01 AM
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Depending on the flow of heads after the porting and the compression of the heads I would have to say around Probally 390-405 HP at the Flywheel. The 24lbs injectors should substain 450 HP But I would probally go with something bigger because if you ever head a injector as it approaches STATIC You would buy bigger injectors tomorrow. And with out having 550+ Horse power the 48-52MM TB would be sufficient. There are Stock ECM with on the fly tunning Via Auto Prom and PROMinator with 48-52mm TB going Deep into the 11s.

Just my .02
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Old May 25, 2004 | 08:30 AM
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Originally posted by MTPFI-MAF
Depending on the flow of heads after the porting and the compression of the heads I would have to say around Probally 390-405 HP at the Flywheel. The 24lbs injectors should substain 450 HP But I would probally go with something bigger because if you ever head a injector as it approaches STATIC You would buy bigger injectors tomorrow. And with out having 550+ Horse power the 48-52MM TB would be sufficient. There are Stock ECM with on the fly tunning Via Auto Prom and PROMinator with 48-52mm TB going Deep into the 11s.

Just my .02
Thank you for your guestimates on my hp and for your constructive critisism. I do understand that a better top end would give my combo a bigger kick in the butt. Here is why I went with the WP's and the GMPP rr's. Two years ago I planned on beefing up my L98 a little. So I ordered the WP's and GMPP stuff for that motor. Since then I have run into more problems with my motor than I care to remember. First it was vacuum leaks, then it was a broken lifter, pushrod, and rocker stud. Then it was discovering my oil was 1 part oil and 2 parts gas. This was from when she was running extremely rich with her vacuum leaks.

So it was then decided to tear down the motor and rebuild it. This then lead to why not build a bigger motor, a 383. I then decided to order a larger set of heads for the motor but keep the camshaft seeing as how I haven't used it to this point. I hadn't used the WP heads either but I decided a 383 needed better flowing heads. So a order goes out for AFR 195's. 2-4 weeks delivery tunred into 6-8, which turned into 3-4 months. So I said the heck with that. I placed a order for a new set of Trickflows, it was a new late model GM design by Trickflow. 2-4 weeks turned into 6-8 and so on. Finally they said they "MIGHT" be able to deliver them to me by the end of this month. So I said the heck wih that. We are now into May and I want my car on the road. The racing season starts in a couple of weeks, where I race in the real street class, and the car show season has started and I want my car. So I cancelled that order and decided to go with what I had in my garage. A perfectly good set of brand new WP heads.

So because of all these problems this is the combo that I am using. I am planning on trying to get a set AFR's again, and I will be going with a bigger cam next winter as well. But for now this will do. My car has not seen the road in two years, so right now having the car back is more important than running a 12.5 vs. a 11.5, and taking my 4 year old son for a ride in my car is more important again. He loves cars and asks me every day to take him for a ride in my car. I know I have a good combo, it just needs to be "tweaked"! LOL.
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Old May 25, 2004 | 09:22 AM
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Nothing wrong with the torquers with some port work.

Looks like a good combo. For the money, the afr's aren't worth the wait time and price. $.02.
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Old May 25, 2004 | 06:02 PM
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Nothing wrong with good Torquer heads, I know guys running them on 406's and having extremely good luck with them. On my combo I went with a set of ProTopLine 220's on my 414sbc, using the HSR w/10.2cr and a CC XM276HR cam.I have just started tuning with a little help from another member. I haven't truly been able to get out and get it all dialed in yet Because I am waiting for a new set of replacement upper and lower control arms to raise my frontend a little, so I have only taken it on short little drives to test some of the tuning. So far it is running better than expected and I cant wait to get it on a dyno for the numbers. Last little trip netted dead stop tromp smoking the tires through second and then like a shot of nitrous it opened up and I went sideways and had to back off. can't wait to get it back on the road.
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