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Old Apr 22, 2005 | 05:13 AM
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Car: 92 RS, 87 Formula, 89 IROC, 05 SRT4
Engine: 5.0 TBI, 5.7 TPI, 5.0 TPI
Transmission: 700R4 x2, T-5
Axle/Gears: 2.73, 3.42 posi x2
5.0 tune for 5.7?

I picked up an 86 TA for $200, interior was gutted but the entire TPI system went on my new 350. I was wondering if the stock 5.0 tune will work, cause I'm kinda broke for the moment, and I haven't been able to find a 5.7 car anywhere. I'm using a Melling Torque cam (Lift .420/.443 Duration @ .050" 204¯/214¯ ) stock 1.94 heads and a full exhaust, any ideas as to how much this is killin my output? Any thoughts would be much appreciated!
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Old May 29, 2005 | 09:41 AM
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It will run, but not optimally. The 305s tend to get away with a little more timing advance than the 350s. You'll also want to check the detonation sensor, since the 305 sensor may be too sensitive for the 350.
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Old May 29, 2005 | 11:43 AM
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Car: 89 Firebird Formula(Totalled), 91 C
Engine: Mild 350
Transmission: 700R4
Axle/Gears: 2.73 :-(
I running my 305 TPI and computer on my new motor with 350 knock sensor and EST which is an LO5 Roller Cam. After hooking it up to a scanner and monitoring everything, even at WOT it runs just fine.

Basically what I'm saying is it will run, but an LO5 is a very mild 350, your bigger cam may be an issue, what kind of heads are you running?
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Old May 30, 2005 | 02:38 AM
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From: San Lorenzo, California
Car: 1987 Firebird Trans AM
Engine: 383 TPI...very soon
Transmission: TH700R4
I was under the assumption that all you needed to run a 350 on a 305 computer is a new knock sensor and ESC for a 350.

I believe the part numbers are:

350 ESC - 16128261
350 KS - 10456288


Either way, it will run, but you should look into a custom chip if you want max performance. If you want to go cheaper atleast find a chip that was for a 350 engine, or get someone to burn/re-burn your chip with a mild 350 tune You do know the 305's had smaller injectors, right?

86 was MAF, so I am assuming you're still running MAF, I would think it would be forgiving enough to run that engine fairly well, the cam isn't THAT large, and I already ran a 305 with 350 injectors and passed California Emissions that way too... so I believe MAF can do great things all by itself.
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Old May 31, 2005 | 11:12 AM
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I did it aswell . My car idles perfectly with all my mods on a new motor . Only had an EGR code ( probably not related) but other than that it worked fine .
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Old May 31, 2005 | 02:06 PM
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isnt it for the 350 the fuel injectors are more lbs? just wondering
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Old May 31, 2005 | 04:35 PM
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Car: 89' Iroc-Z G92
Engine: TPI 305 G92
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i believe the 350 injectors a 21's and the 305's are 19's

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Old Jun 3, 2005 | 12:33 PM
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Car: 92 RS, 87 Formula, 89 IROC, 05 SRT4
Engine: 5.0 TBI, 5.7 TPI, 5.0 TPI
Transmission: 700R4 x2, T-5
Axle/Gears: 2.73, 3.42 posi x2
ok, you guys are gonna laugh, but this is a budget buildup, so I've been using whatever's handy... I replaced the 305 injectors with a set of ford injectors out of a 5.8 (351) truck motor... It's been running fairly well (anywhere under 30mph it goes sideways) and the only code i'm getting is from the maf (which is fried) i can't tell if it has gone into detonation yet, so I'm hoping the timing is about where it needs to be. as for the knock sensor, i used one we had from a TBI 350, I think they're the same. I haven't had too many problems but for some reason it runs richer than crap. perhaps the maf is to blame for the fuel mixture?

ps-sorry for the long post, it's been awhile since i've been able to check back...
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Old Jun 3, 2005 | 01:38 PM
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Makes sense that it runs rich. The ECM thinks they are 19# injectors so it will adjust things according to how it would with 19#'s. Those Ford injectors are probably 24#'s which is why the car will run really rich. The blown MAF doesn't allow it to make ANY correction, even though I doubt it will ever run right until you either swap injectors back to 19#'s or get a burnt chip. I have chip-burning stuff sitting here in my room that I may get rid of in favor of a real-time programming method. PM me if you're interested.
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Old Jun 4, 2005 | 01:16 AM
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Car: 92 RS, 87 Formula, 89 IROC, 05 SRT4
Engine: 5.0 TBI, 5.7 TPI, 5.0 TPI
Transmission: 700R4 x2, T-5
Axle/Gears: 2.73, 3.42 posi x2
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Oh, by the way, i read what was said about a knock sensor and an ESC.... I'm usually pretty good with acronyms, but this one escapes me....
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