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Old Apr 21, 2006 | 06:48 AM
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From: PENDLETON, NY
Car: 1985 T/A
Engine: 355 TPI
Transmission: T-5
Axle/Gears: 3.42
All back together, but running rich as hell!!

so i pulled my motor to put a canton pan on now that its all back together i was timming it I was wondering why she got hot so fast i mean real fast. I pulled a plug and it was black, the exhuast was rich and the temp whent over 220 lickity split. Now when i was adjusting the timming and trying to get her running she was popping and back firing i was cranking it over and noticed a poof of smoke from under the intake that shot out towards the driver side of the throttle body, so i was just gonna rip off the plenum and runners and just replace the gaskets and check the EGR valve block off plate for leaks as well, god i hate this crap!!

any ponters would be greatly appreaciated to the rich condition, oh also the O2 was at like .08 volts does that make sense??
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Old Apr 21, 2006 | 11:05 AM
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From: Corona
Car: 92 Form, 91 Z28, 89 GTA, 86 Z28
Engine: BP383 vortech, BP383, 5.7 TPI, LG4
Transmission: 4L60e, 700R4, 700R4..
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Well, you could have an air bubble trapped in your coolant (near the thermostat) - that'll overheat it like right now. I always drill a small hole in the thermostat somewhere on the flat part.

Popping during cranking is usually messed up timing. Get a timing light on it and see if you're even in the right ballpark. I'm guessing it's retarded quite a bit (did you remove the distributor to pull the engine? guessing you did). Probably stuck it back in a gear tooth off or more. That'll also tend to heat the engine up in a real hurry, and make it run rich.

O2 low means lean. But, you can't trust it when things are running crappy. Don't do anything about that for now until you straighten out the timing.
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Old Apr 21, 2006 | 11:21 AM
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Just a rookie here but did you disconnect the EST cable while timing?
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Old Apr 21, 2006 | 01:22 PM
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From: PENDLETON, NY
Car: 1985 T/A
Engine: 355 TPI
Transmission: T-5
Axle/Gears: 3.42
the timming is at 10deg and there very well might be a air pocket but i have ran that motor before for a few min with no coolant and it has never gotton that hot that quick!!

and no i didnt disconnect it i thought of that before when i was first wrighting this post its just running way to rich the plugs where all frosted black with in a matter of minutes so it has to be leaking somwhere???

i just want to know why it would be running rich??

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Old Apr 24, 2006 | 12:10 PM
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From: PENDLETON, NY
Car: 1985 T/A
Engine: 355 TPI
Transmission: T-5
Axle/Gears: 3.42
so pulled off the runners and the area beneath the the rear runners on the intake manifold the was a pool of gas/oil on both sides and there was some leakage threw the gasket(there was liquid on the machined surface) and the egr block off was all good no leakage there

put it all back together with different gaskets still running rich

i think im gonna make some calls and adjust the timming again and just play around with it again
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