Still running like ****
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From: Middleboro, MA
Car: 1988 Pontiac trans am/gta
Engine: 350
Transmission: 700r4
Axle/Gears: 3.23's
Still running like ****
Compression. 150 psi on all 8
( using 3 crank method)
Timing 6 degrees
TPS .55
IAC adjusted
Fuel pressure Aprox 43 Psi
new plugs, Wires are good and in correct firing order.
Mass air Circuit tested, Working perfectly, and at the time the MAF was outputting the correct numbers. ( As i recall 800 ~ Millivolts @ 900 Rpm )
Runs like this MAF plugged in or not
No Vacuum leaks, Or not one big enough to cause it to run like it is...
Distributor Has no awkward Play, newer Cap and Rotor
Valves adjusted While running 1/2 turn past 0 lash, No clattering
* Recent Work*
( still ran like *** before the work, i was hoping this would cure it)
Ecm
Timing chain( Old one was sloppy as hell)
zz4 Cam
24 pound fuel injectors
new roller lifters
BBK AFPR
And all associated gaskets
thats all i can think of at the time.
Thanks!
( using 3 crank method)
Timing 6 degrees
TPS .55
IAC adjusted
Fuel pressure Aprox 43 Psi
new plugs, Wires are good and in correct firing order.
Mass air Circuit tested, Working perfectly, and at the time the MAF was outputting the correct numbers. ( As i recall 800 ~ Millivolts @ 900 Rpm )
Runs like this MAF plugged in or not
No Vacuum leaks, Or not one big enough to cause it to run like it is...
Distributor Has no awkward Play, newer Cap and Rotor
Valves adjusted While running 1/2 turn past 0 lash, No clattering
* Recent Work*
( still ran like *** before the work, i was hoping this would cure it)
Ecm
Timing chain( Old one was sloppy as hell)
zz4 Cam
24 pound fuel injectors
new roller lifters
BBK AFPR
And all associated gaskets
thats all i can think of at the time.
Thanks!
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From: Huntsville, AL
Car: 87 GTA, 88 GTA, 92 TA, 72 RS SS
Engine: 350, 350, 305, 396
Transmission: T56, 700r4, 700r4, T56
Axle/Gears: 3.42, 3.23, 3.23, 3.73
Re: Still running like ****
is it throwing any codes?
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From: Middleboro, MA
Car: 1988 Pontiac trans am/gta
Engine: 350
Transmission: 700r4
Axle/Gears: 3.23's
Re: Still running like ****
last time i checked them ( before cam work etc)
It would only give a VSS 24 code, on decel.. Because i dont have it hooked up
Ill have to check them tomorow once again
It would only give a VSS 24 code, on decel.. Because i dont have it hooked up
Ill have to check them tomorow once again
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Car: 88 IROC
Engine: 305 TPI
Transmission: 700R4
Axle/Gears: 10 bolt 3.73
Re: Still running like ****
Did you program for the chip and cam? Mixture is going to be off with those 24lb injectors. You will need to programing in the chip.
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From: Middleboro, MA
Car: 1988 Pontiac trans am/gta
Engine: 350
Transmission: 700r4
Axle/Gears: 3.23's
Re: Still running like ****
24 lb injectors are 9 percent of from 22 pnd, the computer can compensate up to 16 percent
besides, it ran like this before all the work
besides, it ran like this before all the work
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From: Corona
Car: 92 Form, 91 Z28, 89 GTA, 86 Z28
Engine: BP383 vortech, BP383, 5.7 TPI, LG4
Transmission: 4L60e, 700R4, 700R4..
Axle/Gears: 3.27, 2.73
Re: Still running like ****
Ignition module, pickup coil in dist., coil, or engine grounding are all big crap makers if all else is good. Could also be a bad ECU (the 165 isn't the most robust ECU out there).
Check spark with a timing light to see if it's firing all the time on all the cylinders. Check spark with a spare plug on each cylinder to see if it's nice looking or weak.
Check spark with a timing light to see if it's firing all the time on all the cylinders. Check spark with a spare plug on each cylinder to see if it's nice looking or weak.
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From: Middleboro, MA
Car: 1988 Pontiac trans am/gta
Engine: 350
Transmission: 700r4
Axle/Gears: 3.23's
Re: Still running like ****
Redngold86z
ECM has been replaced
I looked with a timing light and detected a small skip on a few cylinders
im going to double check all fuses today and possibly tighten some grounds
ECM has been replaced
I looked with a timing light and detected a small skip on a few cylinders
im going to double check all fuses today and possibly tighten some grounds
Last edited by fire350tpi; Sep 1, 2007 at 12:10 PM.
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From: Middleboro, MA
Car: 1988 Pontiac trans am/gta
Engine: 350
Transmission: 700r4
Axle/Gears: 3.23's
Re: Still running like ****
I checked spark on a few wires with a spare plug orange, weak spark
pulled the distributor and am in the process of putting in a pick up coil and module now, /crosses fingers
pulled the distributor and am in the process of putting in a pick up coil and module now, /crosses fingers
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From: Middleboro, MA
Car: 1988 Pontiac trans am/gta
Engine: 350
Transmission: 700r4
Axle/Gears: 3.23's
Re: Still running like ****
Distributor had alot of play in it, and it needs a bronze gear but
I threw it back in, i have a white/blue strong spark now
Runs much better now
Maybe i just need a new distributor
I threw it back in, i have a white/blue strong spark now
Runs much better now
Maybe i just need a new distributor
Last edited by fire350tpi; Sep 3, 2007 at 02:31 PM.
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From: Middleboro, MA
Car: 1988 Pontiac trans am/gta
Engine: 350
Transmission: 700r4
Axle/Gears: 3.23's
Re: Still running like ****
well that motor is gone, I noticed the oil pressure die out when it warmed up and i drained the oil and it is grey and full of metal
whatever caused it, idc it just sucks
rebuild time!
whatever caused it, idc it just sucks
rebuild time!
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