Settle a bet!!!!!!!!!!!
Settle a bet!!!!!!!!!!!
My friend is getting a 86 fire/transam. it has the LB9 305 v8. i say it has 190hp acorrding to this site and from what ive read. He is trying to tell me that it has 250hp. Thats more then a 350 from any of third gens i think. the engine is stock no mods. so who is right me or him. thanks for any help.
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Matt Matson
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Matt Matson
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From: Jackson, Miss., CSA
Car: '87 IROC-Z
Engine: 406 Superram/DFI
Transmission: Auto BTE 3000 conv
it damn sure doesn't have 250. if we are talking about a stock motor then it also depends on what trans. he has. I think w/ an auto the '86 lb9 had 190 or 210.
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Dan
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87 IROC-Z, 5.7,auto, 3.27, leather, !cat, Holley fpr, K&N'S, SLP 1-3/4" Jet-Hot coated headers, Accel .219 cam, Comp 1.5 roller tip rockers, $uperPITAram, Edelbrock lower intake, Holley 52mm tb, Dynomax\Flowmaster catback. Coming Soon- DFI or prom burner, Dart Iron Eagle 200cc heads, 6" rod 383 or a 406
1987 Camaro Z28 - 5.2tpi, auto, 3.73s, ram air, airfoil, ported plenum, !cat, !tbcoolant, !smog, !4th gear
1989 Pontiac 20th Anniversary Turbo Trans Am - 161,000 miles, !cat, 9" K&N - SOLD
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Dan
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87 IROC-Z, 5.7,auto, 3.27, leather, !cat, Holley fpr, K&N'S, SLP 1-3/4" Jet-Hot coated headers, Accel .219 cam, Comp 1.5 roller tip rockers, $uperPITAram, Edelbrock lower intake, Holley 52mm tb, Dynomax\Flowmaster catback. Coming Soon- DFI or prom burner, Dart Iron Eagle 200cc heads, 6" rod 383 or a 406
1987 Camaro Z28 - 5.2tpi, auto, 3.73s, ram air, airfoil, ported plenum, !cat, !tbcoolant, !smog, !4th gear
1989 Pontiac 20th Anniversary Turbo Trans Am - 161,000 miles, !cat, 9" K&N - SOLD
Coming from someone who owns one, the '86 TA's had the option of a 5.0 HO. This was a 305, TPI 190hp engine, vin F. The other TA's without the HO, received the 305 with a 4bbl carb, rated at 150hp. The only possible way that car could be 250hp, was if it came with a 350, vin 8, yet I beleave only 50 were produced in '86, and that they all went into Camaro's.
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Rob
'86 TA 305 TPI
Gutted MAF, Ported Plenum
TB Bypass, Home made Cold Air Intake,
Edelbrock T.E.S.
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Rob
'86 TA 305 TPI
Gutted MAF, Ported Plenum
TB Bypass, Home made Cold Air Intake,
Edelbrock T.E.S.
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Car: Red 87 IROC-Z28 T-Top
Engine: 5.7 Tuned Port Injection
Transmission: 700R4 Auto
Axle/Gears: BW 9-Bolt 3.27
LOL, an 86 LB9 has 190HP and 285TQ, those are the Camaro #'s though, which are higher because of a better designed intake. There weren't any Third Gens with 250HP stock, 245HP yes, but thats only on some 350 TPI's.
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87 IROC-Z28 350 TPI
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89 RS
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87 IROC-Z28 350 TPI
250hp sounds like a TTA to me but they were 89 anyways. Sounds like he is quotint maybe the torque of a 305 Carb???? but 250hp in 86 no way not stock.
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89 GTA 350 - stock all the way. But came with goodies, 3.27, dual cats, alum shaft. Mods and Website coming soon!!!
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89 GTA 350 - stock all the way. But came with goodies, 3.27, dual cats, alum shaft. Mods and Website coming soon!!!
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From: Doghouse ······································ Car: 1989 Formula 350 Vert Engine: 350 L98 Transmission: 700R4 Axle/Gears: B&W 3.27
Car: 87 Formula T-Top, 87 Formula HT
Engine: 5.1L TPI, 5.0L TPI
Transmission: 700R4, M5
Axle/Gears: Sag 3.73, B&W 3.45
86 TPI Auto trans had 190 HP
86 TPI Manual Trans would have had 205 HP
The difference in HP is caused by the cam.
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86 TPI Manual Trans would have had 205 HP
The difference in HP is caused by the cam.
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87 Formula 5.1 converted to TPI Yellow/Black
SLP cam, headers, cat-back exhaust
Ported & polished TPI intake
Gil Younger (no yo-yo) Shift Kit
Aluminum Driveshaft
3.73 Posi gear
Baer 12" brakes 4 wheels
Hotchiss strut tower brace
South side machine frame connecters
Custom reinforced control arms and pan hard bar.
Custom Leather interior
87 Formula TPI (5 Speed) Yellow/Gray STOCK
83 Camaro (Parts)
83 T/A (parts)
]http://www.3rdgenformula.com
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by R.O.B.:
Coming from someone who owns one, the '86 TA's had the option of a 5.0 HO. This was a 305, TPI 190hp engine, vin F. The other TA's without the HO, received the 305 with a 4bbl carb, rated at 150hp. The only possible way that car could be 250hp, was if it came with a 350, vin 8, yet I beleave only 50 were produced in '86, and that they all went into Camaro's.
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Coming from someone who owns one, the '86 TA's had the option of a 5.0 HO. This was a 305, TPI 190hp engine, vin F. The other TA's without the HO, received the 305 with a 4bbl carb, rated at 150hp. The only possible way that car could be 250hp, was if it came with a 350, vin 8, yet I beleave only 50 were produced in '86, and that they all went into Camaro's.
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TPI engines were never reffered to as an "HO" engine. The T/As as well as the Camaros could be ordered with the 305 HO engine which was the L69 CARBURATED engine, rated at... 190 HP. ------------------
92 Z28 5.7
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4bbl 305 150 HP, 4BBL HO 305 190hp, TPI's 205 HP manual or automatic. This has to be true because all three V8s were offered. I don't care what this site sayes I have all kinds of manuals from when I had my 86 that sayes this for all 86 Firebirds/ Camaros.
GM figures. They didn't care about the 5hp plust or minuse because of the aifilter set up.
All 86 cars got that damn penut cam.
DOnt worry he doesn't have 250hp and if he thinks he does its just that I have a sports car and its faster than all others voice talking.
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89 Trans Am Turbo 3.8L All stock 43,000 miles #1053 of 1555
Past Thirdgen:
86 Trans Am w/ built 355TPI with SLP goodies and too much other stuff to List. One sweet *** car, wish I would have had a good enough Job to pay insurance on three cars so I could keep it, but for a 89 Turbo Trans Am w/ Low miles, I think I made the right choice!
GM figures. They didn't care about the 5hp plust or minuse because of the aifilter set up.
All 86 cars got that damn penut cam.
DOnt worry he doesn't have 250hp and if he thinks he does its just that I have a sports car and its faster than all others voice talking.
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89 Trans Am Turbo 3.8L All stock 43,000 miles #1053 of 1555
Past Thirdgen:
86 Trans Am w/ built 355TPI with SLP goodies and too much other stuff to List. One sweet *** car, wish I would have had a good enough Job to pay insurance on three cars so I could keep it, but for a 89 Turbo Trans Am w/ Low miles, I think I made the right choice!
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Synergy:
You're a moron
TPI engines were never reffered to as an "HO" engine. The T/As as well as the Camaros could be ordered with the 305 HO engine which was the L69 CARBURATED engine, rated at... 190 HP.
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You're a moron
TPI engines were never reffered to as an "HO" engine. The T/As as well as the Camaros could be ordered with the 305 HO engine which was the L69 CARBURATED engine, rated at... 190 HP. </font>
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sorry for the almost zerox name -I did'nt know you til after i signed up. --But hey man I GOTTA White IROC too -GIMME A BREAK!

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