305tpi to 355 tpi what can i still use?and other questions..
305tpi to 355 tpi what can i still use?and other questions..
ok my 305 is beat, and its time for a new motor, i am going to build a 355 roller cam one peice seal block, and do a descent rebuild on it, heres what want to know..
can i use my flywheel?
can i run it with the current computer chip? and if i can would it be a good idea to put on some 22lb injectors?
or would the 19lb injectors be ok if i cranked up the fuel pressure?
what else do i have to change to make this work?
Im trying to minimize the cost because eventually the 406 will go in, but not until i get DFI and asuper ram or a mini ram and a 6 speed.
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87 IROC-z 305 TPI
Borg Warner T-5 fresh rebuild
10-bolt 3.73 Richmond gears rebuilt GM posi,
formerly BW 9-bolt w/3.45 gears(broke it)
Ported Plenum and Runners Homemade AFPR
ACCEL 8.8 wires, High output coil,and cap & rotor
Bosch platinum + 4 plugs
Ram Air w/ K&N filters,
MAF sensor screens removed, TB coolant bypass
Polyurethane tranny and torque arm mounts
No Cat, Dynomax Headers & catback w/custom tips
K&N oil filter,Mobil 1 synth,Factory Oil Cooler, Futura GLS Super Sport tires 265/50/15 rear and 235/60/15 front mounted on 86 monte carlo SS rims.
406 siamesed TPI in progress
can i use my flywheel?
can i run it with the current computer chip? and if i can would it be a good idea to put on some 22lb injectors?
or would the 19lb injectors be ok if i cranked up the fuel pressure?
what else do i have to change to make this work?
Im trying to minimize the cost because eventually the 406 will go in, but not until i get DFI and asuper ram or a mini ram and a 6 speed.
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87 IROC-z 305 TPI
Borg Warner T-5 fresh rebuild
10-bolt 3.73 Richmond gears rebuilt GM posi,
formerly BW 9-bolt w/3.45 gears(broke it)
Ported Plenum and Runners Homemade AFPR
ACCEL 8.8 wires, High output coil,and cap & rotor
Bosch platinum + 4 plugs
Ram Air w/ K&N filters,
MAF sensor screens removed, TB coolant bypass
Polyurethane tranny and torque arm mounts
No Cat, Dynomax Headers & catback w/custom tips
K&N oil filter,Mobil 1 synth,Factory Oil Cooler, Futura GLS Super Sport tires 265/50/15 rear and 235/60/15 front mounted on 86 monte carlo SS rims.
406 siamesed TPI in progress
Flywheel, starter, etc. will work. I'm pretty sure if it's a mild 355, you can use 19# injectors.
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1986 IROC, fully loaded, Mini Ram'd 383, Art Carr 700R4, Accel DFI, 12 bolt rear, etc, etc......
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1986 IROC, fully loaded, Mini Ram'd 383, Art Carr 700R4, Accel DFI, 12 bolt rear, etc, etc......
Joined: Jul 1999
Posts: 12,086
Likes: 125
From: SALEM, NH
Car: '88 Formula
Engine: LC9
Transmission: 4L60E
Axle/Gears: 3.89 9"
19lbs should work. WHen I crank my 22lbs up to like 55PSI my car almost died it got so rich.. And I have big heads.
-- Joe
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1989 Formula 350 4-bolt mains, Forged .030 TRW pistons, SLP 51010 Roller Cam, Comp-cams roller lifters,
Summit 1.5 roller rockers, World Products Sportsman II 2.02/1.60 heads, Edelbrock TPI Intake,
Cloyes Double Roller timing chain, Mellings oil pump: 13.5 @ 100.23 MPH
Since close of track : Ported SLP runners, Ported Plenum, AFPR, Autometer 100lbs F/P gauge, A/F ratio gauge, MSD 6AL.
http://www.joesperformance.com
yes it will be a mild 355 so i guess the 19lb`s will work, sweet!
will the computer be content with the new motor? I plan on getting into prom burning, but i just want to be able to drive this thing to work and stuff, so can i use the stock chip temporarily?
also are the 305 and 350knock sensor the same?
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87 IROC-z 305 TPI
Borg Warner T-5 fresh rebuild
10-bolt 3.73 Richmond gears rebuilt GM posi,
formerly BW 9-bolt w/3.45 gears(broke it)
Ported Plenum and Runners Homemade AFPR
ACCEL 8.8 wires, High output coil,and cap & rotor
Bosch platinum + 4 plugs
Ram Air w/ K&N filters,
MAF sensor screens removed, TB coolant bypass
Polyurethane tranny and torque arm mounts
No Cat, Dynomax Headers & catback w/custom tips
K&N oil filter,Mobil 1 synth,Factory Oil Cooler, Futura GLS Super Sport tires 265/50/15 rear and 235/60/15 front mounted on 86 monte carlo SS rims.
406 siamesed TPI in progress
will the computer be content with the new motor? I plan on getting into prom burning, but i just want to be able to drive this thing to work and stuff, so can i use the stock chip temporarily?
also are the 305 and 350knock sensor the same?
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87 IROC-z 305 TPI
Borg Warner T-5 fresh rebuild
10-bolt 3.73 Richmond gears rebuilt GM posi,
formerly BW 9-bolt w/3.45 gears(broke it)
Ported Plenum and Runners Homemade AFPR
ACCEL 8.8 wires, High output coil,and cap & rotor
Bosch platinum + 4 plugs
Ram Air w/ K&N filters,
MAF sensor screens removed, TB coolant bypass
Polyurethane tranny and torque arm mounts
No Cat, Dynomax Headers & catback w/custom tips
K&N oil filter,Mobil 1 synth,Factory Oil Cooler, Futura GLS Super Sport tires 265/50/15 rear and 235/60/15 front mounted on 86 monte carlo SS rims.
406 siamesed TPI in progress
Joined: Jul 1999
Posts: 12,086
Likes: 125
From: SALEM, NH
Car: '88 Formula
Engine: LC9
Transmission: 4L60E
Axle/Gears: 3.89 9"
Hey man,
Well realisticly the spark curve, and injector pulses won't be in performance favor, but the car will run just fine.
I can't remember what the computer adjusts your timing to, but you can prolly advance the base on the dist to like 10` or so.
Eventually you (and I) should burn new proms cuz you're gonna wanna test the car out on a dyno.
As far as the fuel pulse, that should matter very minimally on a non SPFI car.
Accel makes a nice timing advance computer, that you (or I) can wire to play with spark curve. Its suposedly a "race only" box, but I imagine it wouldn't be a big deal to rig up a quick connect plug for track use.
-- joe
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/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\
1989 Formula 350 4-bolt mains, Forged .030 TRW pistons, SLP 51010 Roller Cam, Comp-cams roller lifters,
Summit 1.5 roller rockers, World Products Sportsman II 2.02/1.60 heads, Edelbrock TPI Intake,
Cloyes Double Roller timing chain, Mellings oil pump: 13.5 @ 100.23 MPH
Since close of track : Ported SLP runners, Ported Plenum, AFPR, Autometer 100lbs F/P gauge, A/F ratio gauge, MSD 6AL, MSD Redline selector.
http://www.joesperformance.com
Well realisticly the spark curve, and injector pulses won't be in performance favor, but the car will run just fine.
I can't remember what the computer adjusts your timing to, but you can prolly advance the base on the dist to like 10` or so.
Eventually you (and I) should burn new proms cuz you're gonna wanna test the car out on a dyno.
As far as the fuel pulse, that should matter very minimally on a non SPFI car.
Accel makes a nice timing advance computer, that you (or I) can wire to play with spark curve. Its suposedly a "race only" box, but I imagine it wouldn't be a big deal to rig up a quick connect plug for track use.
-- joe
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/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\
1989 Formula 350 4-bolt mains, Forged .030 TRW pistons, SLP 51010 Roller Cam, Comp-cams roller lifters,
Summit 1.5 roller rockers, World Products Sportsman II 2.02/1.60 heads, Edelbrock TPI Intake,
Cloyes Double Roller timing chain, Mellings oil pump: 13.5 @ 100.23 MPH
Since close of track : Ported SLP runners, Ported Plenum, AFPR, Autometer 100lbs F/P gauge, A/F ratio gauge, MSD 6AL, MSD Redline selector.
http://www.joesperformance.com
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Joined: Jul 1999
Posts: 119
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From: Kingfisher,Ok
Car: 97 WS6 T/A
Engine: LT1 383
Transmission: 4L60E
My freind dropped a 350 300 horse motor in his 305TPI car and it ran fine with all the stock 305 stuff, but boy did it wake up when a good tuned chip was added, yeah I would bump FP up to 46 + and advance the base timing a tad.
Perry
Perry
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Joined: Aug 2001
Posts: 483
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From: Dallas, Tx
Car: 88 Trans Am
Engine: lt1 intaked 355 makin 277 on 25 psi of fuel pressure and stock timing :)
Transmission: A4 stock... that moved a mobile dyno a foot shifting into 2nd :)
hey man u are copying me... lol hahahaha
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you can also use the rods from the 305 they are sometimes equiped with gm X rods that are stronger than normal rods. Look on the side of the rods and if they have and X on them use them they should be good for about 375-400 hp if checked and magnafluxed by a compitent machine shop.
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