Just wondering. Mine turns a 13.54 @102.8 w/ a 1.93 60'. My mods are in the sig. I want 12's on motor. Do you think a Mini Ram and 1.6RR alone can do this.

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Mods: ZZ4 engine w/stock TPI, adj, fuel pres. reg., MSD 8.5, HI6S ign. w/ PS-91 coil, K&N filter, TPI air foil, Hooker comp. shorties, American Thunder flows. 160* stat., TB bypass, 3"cowl, bat. relocate, AC delete, smog delet, cats gutted, stock T-5 w/ 3.42 rear, ported plenum, 24# inj., dual friction centerforce.

 

A friend with an 88 IROC with a ZZ4, and miniram ran 13.20's at 109 mph with the intake being the only change. Probably would have picked up 1 or 2 mph with 1.6 RR's.

A miniram and convertor will get you there.

 

I have a 12.9 w/stock unported tpi and 3.73 gears

Note: If I don't say it, then most likely, tpi_roc will because I proved him wrong in that the 3.73 from 2.73 gears helped my 1/4 a LOT. The 12.9 was acheived on a G-Tech, however, I ran a 13.4 at the track with tire spin, no launch, 2.73 gears and before a few other mods. To hit the 12.9 on the G-Tech, I launched perfectly w/no spin and had the 3.73 gears etc. So in short, it is possible for 12's w/stock tpi. I also have no a/c, fiberglass hood etc. and I am running at sea level.

 

[This message has been edited by tpi_roc (edited December 04, 2001).]

 

Well, I guess if I wanted to stay in the 13's, then you are right! I should have "boughten" 3.42's

 

[This message has been edited by tpi_roc (edited December 04, 2001).]

 

Heck, I should say LEGITIMATLY into the 12's instead of your Gtech claiming its a time slip.

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1985 Iroc-z, 14 second 305, new engine in the works.

 

89IrocZZ4 and Free Bird, What chip are you using? I know my custom prom isn't near optimum(it sucks) which is why I'm starting to burn my own.

 

sorry guys, don't mind tpi_roc - the only thing he does during the day is hunt down my posts puts me down...anyway, I am using a hypercrap chip.

 

Wouldn't have posted if you didn't mention my name

only responding.. what do you expect.

If you want to be childish, do it in your car at 150mph around as many light poles as you can find. Otherwise shut up and make your posts.

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1985 Iroc-z, 14 second 305, new engine in the works.

 

Anywho

Free Bird..

Im sorry this made it into your post. My apologies.

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1985 Iroc-z, 14 second 305, new engine in the works.

[This message has been edited by tpi_roc (edited December 04, 2001).]

 

I apologize too Freebird. Let me try and offer some advice to you for your next mod(s). I wouldn't go w/a miniram just yet unless you are planning on a bigger stall/lower gears/bigger cam. If I were you, I would get a quality stall - vigilante promises about 4-6 tenths off your et (that is if you have an auto of course!) from switching out the stock unit. I think the 1.6's would be nice as well. Let us know what you do.

I also apologize to tpi_roc - I don't really know what I did to make you get on my tail, and I just figured you would "correct" me sooner or later as you have before. Thanks for your help previously - I still don't get why YOU are calling ME childish? Anyway, truce, k?

 

Sure thing!


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1985 Iroc-z, 14 second 305, new engine in the works.

 

back to original topic..13.70@101.02best MPH 102.7 both on Remington 295/15/50 street radials,..2.16-2.19 60 fts.With good tires there is still a lot left in the car ET wise.

 

Freebird - I would suggest that you at least change your base manifold. It has been proven on a dyno to gain 20hp. If it's in your budget, go with AS&M long tube runners. That combo should get you real close to 12's.
www.geocities.com/dzperf

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D&Z Performance
"Putting Power to the Pavement"

 

I'm running the stock 305 chip.

I don't want to be close to 12's I want to be in the 12's consistantly.

Will the MR run at all w/ the stock chip?

PS- I have a T-5 manual trans w/ stock 3.42's

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Mods: ZZ4 engine w/stock TPI, adj, fuel pres. reg., MSD 8.5, HI6S ign. w/ PS-91 coil, K&N filter, TPI air foil, Hooker comp. shorties, American Thunder flows. 160* stat., TB bypass, 3"cowl, bat. relocate, AC delete, smog delet, cats gutted, stock T-5 w/ 3.42 rear, ported plenum, 24# inj., dual friction centerforce.

 

You're losing so much power to having the completely wrong chip in there already. You'd be a fool if your next move wasn't getting into PROM burning.
Pas that, a MR is a good piece for where you want to be, but the ZZ4 cam is on the small side for a 12 sec. MR car. Thus, rather than 1.6 RRs you'd be much better served to run a bigger cam.

You guys recomending a vigilante...uhhh, yeah, they're great and all (hell i bought one for my stock 305), but he has a stick. Sometimes it helps to read a cars mods/description before you start doling out advice, hehehehe

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Ed Maher - Moderator @ The TPI & Carb Boards
92 Z28 Convertible - Quasar blue / Tan top
305 TPI A4 2.73 - 14.7 @ 93.6
Stock except ported plenum and dual cats
-=ICON Motorsports=-

- Definitely prototypes, high powered mutants of some kind. Too weird to live, too cool to die

 

My suggestion is throw a ZZ9 cam and the right chip,,and screw roller rockers,throw a set of "long slot" rockers and maybe some head work.Then you'll be there.

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1980 Camaro/5.7 TPI Roller Motor/Balanced,.30 over/Forged pistons/ZZ9 cam/4-Speed. Fast? Yes.
"Watch for reverse lights"

 

Ed, please check your mail.

Thanks for all the advice. Can I follow traxion's tech article to get started. When I say "follow" I mean use the exact hardware and software. $250-$300 is a drop in the bucket.

From basic tuning of the prom what can I expect time wise from my car.

 

Damn Free, did you win the lottery man, since when was 250-300 a drop in the bucket :-)

Just an FYI, I'll definatley be burning by spring time, and you know I'll be on your door step to help ya out. Either that or I'll be coming to you!!!

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j.wolfe
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91 GTA L98 MSD K&N 195,000
Best time: 14.389@95.49 (VMP) Done with 193,000 miles and no engine work what so ever.
"...Deception..." Brandon Sloan * ...wounds heal and chics dig scars...

 

WADDUP POORBOY8!!!

hey man, when you get your prom gear, lemme know. i'm think about getting a setup too...then keeping different chips in a small tackle box.

 

Hey Free bird. Since you are in need of more air try stepping up you TB to. I could see a mini ram, 58mm TB, a loser converter, and a custom prom for the new stuff putting you there easily.

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1989 Camaro RS

305 .030 over Hydro Pistons
Vortech heads milled to 58cc...Performer RPM intake....LT4 cam..Crane Gold rockers...FastChip custom chip...ALum. Driveshaft...3.73 gears with Posi...underdrive pullys...Rebuilt 700R4 with Vette Servo and B&M shift Kit...MSD ignition...A/C Delete No SMOG junk....1997 SS leather interior...B&M Shifter... Ultimate TBI mods...14X3 K&N open Element Non-Drop...Hooker headers....3" exhaust with Flowmaster Cross flow 16X8 Wheels from 97 RS Spohn LCA's Spohn Panhard Bar..LETS PLAY FORD!!

www.geocities.com/feltsb

 

just wondering,with most of you running drag radials. etc and cutting sub 2.0 60's.Guestimate what i would do with a real tire and launhing hard,,rt now 13.707@101.02 best MPH 102.7 ,car have 2500 converter and SSM liftbars.I dont think hifh 1.8 low 1.9 60's are outa line,?? what do you think 13.30 or so?????? my bset 60 is 2.16-2.19 babying it the first 30 -40 ft LOL

thanks

greg

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86 z28 zz4 ssm lift bars ,3.73 simesed runners and a traction deficient 13.707@101.02,on a 2.16 60 ft on 295/50/15 junk street rubber ,best MPH run 13.82@102.7,69 AMX,390 4 speed sticky tires and other stuff..12.94@102.3

 

Check sig for times and mods..

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1988 red Iroc-Z, 57k miles, stock tpi, zz4, 2.77 4wd, probuilt stage 3 700r4, 2800 vigilante TC, TES headers, dynomax 3" catback, nitto DR, ported plenum, afpr, free mods.AIM: IrocZzach
12.96 @ 106mph 1.9 60ft 75 Shot N2o
13.40 @ 101mph 1.9 60ft N/A

 

Brian Felts- DAMNIT!!!! I HAVE A MANUAL TRANS. I know all about how a higher stall makes me go faster. (sorry, but your like the 4th person who told me that). . .

Poorboy- You know that ticket I just had to pay a fine for, well I've been saving my $$ for that for a while. 6 months suspended license added more $$ to pad the pocket book w/. I'll take you up on the offer of burning me a prom. If I don't beat you to it.

86ZZ4- What drag radials? Goodyear F1 Steel 255/50/16 gives me a best of 1.93 60' Thats w/ a stick. Most of the time I get a 2.0 sec. "They" say a 0.1 in your 60' is good for 0.2 in the 1/4.
13.7/ 2.16 = 13.5/2.06
13.5/ 1.96 = 13.3/1.86

Its not as easy as it sounds.


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Mods: ZZ4 engine w/stock TPI, adj, fuel pres. reg., MSD 8.5, HI6S ign. w/ PS-91 coil, K&N filter, TPI air foil, Hooker comp. shorties, American Thunder flows. 160* stat., TB bypass, 3"cowl, bat. relocate, AC delete, smog delet, cats gutted, stock T-5 w/ 3.42 rear, ported plenum, 24# inj., dual friction centerforce.

 

Anyone done it?