Mass air value not changing on autoxray
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Mass air value not changing on autoxray
When i hook up the autoxray it always shows up 32982gr/hr and never changes, that doesnt seem right to me, is my mass air bad.
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Re: Mass air value not changing on autoxray
Sounds like it. It should definitely be changing. That sounds like the max value (ie, an open circuit).
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Re: Mass air value not changing on autoxray
thats kind what i thought, is there any troubleshooting that can be done on it, or just replace it.
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Re: Mass air value not changing on autoxray
First thing is to clean the connections at both the MAF and the grounds on the back of the passenger side head. I can send you the things to test for later if you have a volt meter.
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Re: Mass air value not changing on autoxray
i verified i had good ground from the maf plug to the negative terminal on the battery, i also verified i had 12v and 5v on the red and green with the key turned on, does that rule out the relay and lean more toward a bad maf.
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Re: Mass air value not changing on autoxray
I'd say yea, looks like the MAF. You could monitor the output while it's running (DC, <5V) and see if it changes.
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Re: Mass air value not changing on autoxray
i hooked up my meter to the signal wire and as i blow on the maf the values change, im about to verify the wire back to the ecm is good, if it is then possibly bad ecm?
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Re: Mass air value not changing on autoxray
Anything is possible, but a bad connection or ground seems more likely. Connect your meter to the ECM end and see if you still see signal.
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Re: Mass air value not changing on autoxray
yes, the values fluxuate with engine rpm, i guess its always possible that my auto xray is just not reading it correctly because when i unhooked the maf while the engine was running and it died shortly after.
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Re: Mass air value not changing on autoxray
Are you sure it's not set for a newer MAP engine?
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Re: Mass air value not changing on autoxray
its an older xray, i dont have alot of options on it, its set to 85 camaro vin f
Re: Mass air value not changing on autoxray
Also, the car should run with the MAF disconnected, that is a diagnostic technique for determining if you have a basic problem or an electronic one.
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Re: Mass air value not changing on autoxray
what i have found with the scanner is if i am in data mode then hit the scan button it will update with whatever values are given right then, i have been monitoring my temps with it since my temp gauge is also messed up. the car is running really good, it has a slight stumble right off of idle, not as bad after i set the tps to .54 closed.
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