I need some help from the experts..
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From: new jersey
Car: 87 iroc-z & 88 vert
Engine: 350 tpi & 305 tpi
Transmission: 700r4 & tpi
Axle/Gears: stock & 308 posi
I need some help from the experts..
Ok guys heres the deal ive been threw 2 tpi cars and im starting to really hate them i bought an 88 vert that i thought needed minimal work. Car had a 305 tpi swaped in along with a world class t5. When i bought the car it ran alittle choppy but that was it i have fixed the choppy idle problem and now have a massive miss. Now when i say massive miss i mean to the point where the car has no power and barley moves when i let the clutch out heres what ive done so far..
Distributor
cap and rotor
plug wires
plugs
compression check ( all cylinders are fine )
computer check
the car has most of the vacuum stuff hooked up but whatevers not hooked up is plugged i keep doing stuff and nothing seems to change it so before i rip my hair out please experts of thirdgens PLEASE HELP! i really just wanna drive the car any help is appreciated
Distributor
cap and rotor
plug wires
plugs
compression check ( all cylinders are fine )
computer check
the car has most of the vacuum stuff hooked up but whatevers not hooked up is plugged i keep doing stuff and nothing seems to change it so before i rip my hair out please experts of thirdgens PLEASE HELP! i really just wanna drive the car any help is appreciated
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Car: 82 Z28
Engine: 383 SP EFI/ 4150 TB
Transmission: T400
Axle/Gears: QP 9" 3.73
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Car: 87 iroc-z & 88 vert
Engine: 350 tpi & 305 tpi
Transmission: 700r4 & tpi
Axle/Gears: stock & 308 posi
Re: I need some help from the experts..
No codes showing o and I tried a new computer and a different prom no chance so rights now it has a super chips prom in it
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From: new jersey
Car: 87 iroc-z & 88 vert
Engine: 350 tpi & 305 tpi
Transmission: 700r4 & tpi
Axle/Gears: stock & 308 posi
Re: I need some help from the experts..
Fuel pressures good it's between 37 and 40 psi
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Car: 1992 RS
Engine: 305
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Re: I need some help from the experts..
If it's truly a miss you need to find out which cylinder. Disconnect one plug at a time and run it. if it's worse, it's not that one. When it runs the same you know which one's not firing and you can work back from there.
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Car: 1989-92 FORMULA350 305 92 Hawkclone
Engine: 4++,350 & 305 CIs
Transmission: 700R4 4800 vig 18th700R4 t56 ZF6 T5
Axle/Gears: 3.70 9"ford alum chunk,dana44,9bolt
Re: I need some help from the experts..
Also, ohm the injs and check the inj harness to see if its firing all the injs
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Car: 87 iroc-z & 88 vert
Engine: 350 tpi & 305 tpi
Transmission: 700r4 & tpi
Axle/Gears: stock & 308 posi
Re: I need some help from the experts..
I did the wires makes no difference on any of them the injectors are next it smells like its really rich how do I go about ohming the injectors I have the tester I've just never done it can you explain the process
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From: new jersey
Car: 87 iroc-z & 88 vert
Engine: 350 tpi & 305 tpi
Transmission: 700r4 & tpi
Axle/Gears: stock & 308 posi
Re: I need some help from the experts..
Ok so I ohmed all the injector plugs there all at 12.15 so what's next could an injector be stuck open
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Car: 1986 Camaro SC
Engine: 305 TPI Procharged D1SC
Transmission: Tremec TKO-600
Axle/Gears: Moser 12 Bolt 3.73 posi
Re: I need some help from the experts..
if its rich it should throw a code...
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From: new jersey
Car: 87 iroc-z & 88 vert
Engine: 350 tpi & 305 tpi
Transmission: 700r4 & tpi
Axle/Gears: stock & 308 posi
Re: I need some help from the experts..
Ok I ohmed the injectors all were 12.15 without motor running plugged them all back in and fired the car up and it ran AMAZING for about 5 minutes the started to run like garbage what's wrong
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Car: 1985 Camaro Z28
Engine: 305 TPI
Transmission: 700R4
Re: I need some help from the experts..
I think stock injectors should be around 16. Fuel pressure should be around 42 to 45psi with the vacuum off.
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Car: 91' Firebird SOLD
Engine: 350 TPI +bolt-ons
Transmission: 700r4
Axle/Gears: 3:42
Re: I need some help from the experts..
check timing and make sure knock sensor is plugged in properly,check to see if your dist rotor is pointing to no.1 cyl when your at TDC first.
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Car: 1989 gta/ 1989 tta
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Re: I need some help from the experts..
injectors change them ,fuel pump has a little filter inside the tank refer to a sock it gets clogged and mushy when ever the demand for gas occurs it restricts it
Re: I need some help from the experts..
What exactly did you change between there being a "choppy" idle (before) and a dead miss under load (after)? It's good you did some basic tune-up items but whatever you changed probably also CAUSED the new dead-miss obove idle.
Put your thinking cap on.
Put your thinking cap on.
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From: Imperial, Missouri
Car: 89 IROC/89 Vert/87 Vert/89 GTA Vert
Engine: 5.7/5.0/5.0/5.7
Transmission: 700R4
Axle/Gears: 9" 2.77/9" 3:23/9" 3:42
Re: I need some help from the experts..
Wondering on the distributor - if you put in a new one were you sure you did not miss putting it in by one tooth? Also is it a Delco Module on the distributor? Make sure the wires are not burned and they are secure on the module attached to the distributor. Mine ran like this and I replaced MAF, TPS, Distibutor, Cap, Rotor, Delco module, New injectors and all new plugs. Finally ran great but still had to reset timing to correct specs. Ran great for almost 800 miles then back to sluggish. Turns out MAF was bad.
Try unplugging MAF and see if this helps... If so, MAF is bad and it reverts to limp home mode.
Try unplugging MAF and see if this helps... If so, MAF is bad and it reverts to limp home mode.
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