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Old Jul 6, 2012 | 11:15 PM
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Engine runs rough after I took my MSD digital 6 out????

My MSD digital 6+ took a crap, so I sent it away to get fixed.

I thought I would atleast drive the car while waiting for the ignition box to get fixed.

I looped the box out, so it would run, but now it runs very rough.
I unplugged the EST and the engine runs way better! But the initial timing was at 60 degrees advanced! I did NOT change anything in the dizzy to change the timing.

I have no codes.

So I turned down the timing to 10,(which it was before).

Now the engine won't start, but it will runs with the EST unplugged.
I have a spare ECM and it didn't make a difference

Is there a ESC module?
Would a pick-up in the dizzy do this? (I have a pro-billet MSD dizzy)
I also changed the ignitoin module too
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Old Jul 6, 2012 | 11:58 PM
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Car: 1989-92 FORMULA350 305 92 Hawkclone
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Re: Engine runs rough after I took my MSD digital 6 out????

Make sure the outer ring on your balancer hasnt spun on the inner hub.
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Old Jul 7, 2012 | 12:06 AM
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Re: Engine runs rough after I took my MSD digital 6 out????

How do you check that?
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Old Jul 7, 2012 | 11:43 AM
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Re: Engine runs rough after I took my MSD digital 6 out????

What would make the timing go really advanced?

Does the knock sensor do that or is there a timing module?
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Old Jul 7, 2012 | 12:19 PM
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Re: Engine runs rough after I took my MSD digital 6 out????

You'll have to look at a new balancer and compare the crank keyway postion to the outer timing mark.
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Old Jul 8, 2012 | 11:48 PM
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Re: Engine runs rough after I took my MSD digital 6 out????

I got a code 33(MAP sensor)

IF I test it the way these guys want
http://www.chevythunder.com/map_code_33.htm
Then I should have a faulty MAP sensor (sensor unplugged with ignition on, I get less than 1 volt.

But, if I test the MAP sensor while it is plugged in, it works fine. 4+ volts, then if I apply vacuum, the voltage goes down.
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Old Jul 9, 2012 | 07:16 AM
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Re: Engine runs rough after I took my MSD digital 6 out????

If it was the MAP sensor, would it make it run that bad?
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