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Old Mar 8, 2013 | 11:38 AM
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fuel pump relay

my car will run only if i push on the gas, 12v to red wire on the relay, nothing on all the others, i tried jumping it under the dash and no fuel pump sound but i can hear it prime when i turn the key on though, and thoughts please
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Old Mar 8, 2013 | 11:47 AM
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Re: fuel pump relay

Have you bypassed the oil pressure switch ?

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Old Mar 8, 2013 | 11:50 AM
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Re: fuel pump relay

yes sir, good fuse and 12v (the one by the battery)
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Old Mar 8, 2013 | 12:05 PM
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Re: fuel pump relay

no the oil pressure switch is brand new and reads on the cluster correctly
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Old Mar 8, 2013 | 12:29 PM
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Re: fuel pump relay

jumper the switch grey wire to orange wire the pump should come on.
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Old Mar 8, 2013 | 01:04 PM
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Re: fuel pump relay

i did and it works fine now, the terminal was very loose, thank you for your input, i appreaciate it
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Old Mar 8, 2013 | 01:06 PM
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you owe me a cold beer lol
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Old Mar 8, 2013 | 02:49 PM
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Re: fuel pump relay

now the SES light flashes and wont stay running at an idle, i jumped the fuel pump relay and the pump stays on but the light flashes and wants to kill it.
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Old Mar 8, 2013 | 02:54 PM
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Re: fuel pump relay

if i pull all fuses the light still flashes until i pull the eng/control fuse then everything shuts off, i think its a wire not connected but i dont know which wire to trace down, i have the 3000 page manual but its kinda hard to understand some of it
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Old Mar 8, 2013 | 02:57 PM
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Re: fuel pump relay

the grey wire would read 12v after car was off for 10 sec and turned on for 2 sec but dropped quickly, i cant find if its supposed to stay at 12v or if is supposed to drop to 0v
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Old Mar 8, 2013 | 03:01 PM
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Re: fuel pump relay

i have about 5k under the hood replacing almost everything (stock) the harness, tps, ect, and O2 sensors are the last things left to be compeletly new
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Old Mar 8, 2013 | 03:14 PM
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Re: fuel pump relay

I replaced my IAC with an AC Delco unit recently. Worked.
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Old Mar 8, 2013 | 03:19 PM
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Re: fuel pump relay

my IAC only has 2-3k miles on it
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Old Mar 8, 2013 | 03:37 PM
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Re: fuel pump relay

What code does the ecm have stored ?
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Old Mar 8, 2013 | 03:39 PM
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Re: fuel pump relay

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now the SES light flashes and wont stay running at an idle, i jumped the fuel pump relay and the pump stays on but the light flashes and wants to kill it.
Code 54 ?
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Old Mar 8, 2013 | 05:07 PM
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Re: fuel pump relay

the SES light flickers, i cant get a code
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Old Mar 8, 2013 | 05:09 PM
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Re: fuel pump relay

no communication with the ecm indicates the memcal in not seated correctly or is bad or the ecm is faulty.
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Old Mar 8, 2013 | 05:14 PM
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Re: fuel pump relay

ill check it, the ecm was just replaced
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Old Mar 8, 2013 | 05:17 PM
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Re: fuel pump relay

sounds like the car is in limp home mode
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Old Mar 8, 2013 | 05:25 PM
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Re: fuel pump relay

does the ecm have a ground wire by where it mounts
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Old Mar 8, 2013 | 05:30 PM
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Re: fuel pump relay

my buddy is going to bring me a power probe so i can back probe the ecm wires
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Old Mar 8, 2013 | 05:42 PM
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Re: fuel pump relay

the ecm grounds are behind the passinger cylinder head.
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Old Mar 8, 2013 | 05:56 PM
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Re: fuel pump relay

those 2 wires cost me 2k last time and 6 months lol i couldnt find the problem after replacing everything and it was those 2 wires cut in half, i fixed and it ran perfect. so i look at those 2 wires 1st when i have a problem lol
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Old Mar 8, 2013 | 05:58 PM
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Re: fuel pump relay

it has to do with the ecm, i dont know what else would make the ses light flicker
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Old Mar 8, 2013 | 06:02 PM
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Re: fuel pump relay

i know the vacuum leak code pops, 32, so the light stays on when its cold til i open the throttle all the way then the code would shut off til the motor sat and got cold. Now when its running the light stays on, car runs fine, then the ses light will flash or shut off and the car drops in idle or dies right with the light
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Old Mar 8, 2013 | 06:05 PM
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Re: fuel pump relay

its an intermittent problem, it wont let the car start or run on its own, i have to give it gas to start and stay running. thats when the light will be flashing irregular
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Old Mar 17, 2013 | 03:08 PM
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Re: fuel pump relay

did you ever fix the problem? im having a similar problem with mine aswell
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