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Old May 26, 2015 | 07:50 PM
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EGR and it's solenoid..?

Trying to get this car going and realized I don't have an EGR solenoid and understand they aren't made anymore. I do not intend to install the AIR system when I put it all back together.


If I don't reinstall the AIR system will I need the EGR and the solenoid all hooked up or can I just block off the EGR valve?


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Old May 26, 2015 | 08:19 PM
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Re: EGR and it's solenoid..?

You will need the solenoid connected or will get a check engine light. You could get PROM burned for it with EGR delete and other parameters diasabled or changed There is a gentleman on this forum that does that work. Seems to get good reviews I believe he goes by " Tuned Performance" I think they may be available after market but do not quote me.
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Old May 26, 2015 | 08:25 PM
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OK, so it will not effect the performance of the engine, just give me the check engine light? My first goal is to get it running then I can smooth out all the bumps..
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Old May 27, 2015 | 08:27 PM
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Re: EGR and it's solenoid..?

I may cause running issues. The calibration is expecting inert exhaust gas to be added to the mix, with the egr doing nothing the chambers aren't getting that inert gas. I don't know how significant it will be with your car but my SD tpi wasn't happy at freeway cruises with the egr solenoid failing.
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Old May 28, 2015 | 09:51 AM
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Re: EGR and it's solenoid..?

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I may cause running issues. The calibration is expecting inert exhaust gas to be added to the mix, with the egr doing nothing the chambers aren't getting that inert gas. I don't know how significant it will be with your car but my SD tpi wasn't happy at freeway cruises with the egr solenoid failing.
Got it, thanks! I have posted a want ad for one in classifieds.
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Old May 28, 2015 | 01:50 PM
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Re: EGR and it's solenoid..?

If you look around there's a thread on this site about a certain cadillacs egr solenoid working for our cars. I would look into it and try to track one down or find a thirdgen at a junkyard before getting the tune to remove code 32 and putting a block off plate on.

My car ran horribly when the EGR went. I would be hesitant to remove it permanently.

Edit: I believe the Cadillac with the similar egr solenoid is a 1994 Cadillac Deville 4.9l 8cyl.
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Old May 28, 2015 | 01:53 PM
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Re: EGR and it's solenoid..?

Originally Posted by TylerSteez
If you look around there's a thread on this site about a certain cadillacs egr solenoid working for our cars. I would look into it and try to track one down or find a thirdgen at a junkyard before getting the tune to remove code 32 and putting a block off plate on.

My car ran horribly when the EGR went. I would be hesitant to remove it permanently.

Edit: I believe the Cadillac with the similar egr solenoid is a 1994 Cadillac Deville 4.9l 8cyl.
Thanks! I have my feelers out on the classified board and have already got a few hits..Keeping my fingers crossed.
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Old May 29, 2015 | 01:29 PM
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Re: EGR and it's solenoid..?

Originally Posted by TylerSteez
If you look around there's a thread on this site about a certain cadillacs egr solenoid working for our cars. I would look into it and try to track one down or find a thirdgen at a junkyard before getting the tune to remove code 32 and putting a block off plate on.

My car ran horribly when the EGR went. I would be hesitant to remove it permanently.

Edit: I believe the Cadillac with the similar egr solenoid is a 1994 Cadillac Deville 4.9l 8cyl.
Standard Motor Products VS25, that's what Rock Auto shows for the Deville.
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Old May 29, 2015 | 02:21 PM
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Re: EGR and it's solenoid..?

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Standard Motor Products VS25, that's what Rock Auto shows for the Deville.
Thanks, I may have to go that route. Striking out so far on the classifieds..
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Old May 29, 2015 | 05:16 PM
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Re: EGR and it's solenoid..?

If you do switch to a Caddilac solenoid you will have to make a connector or splice the correct plug into the harness. It changes from a weather pack connector to a metripack connector.
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Old May 30, 2015 | 09:26 AM
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Re: EGR and it's solenoid..?

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If you do switch to a Caddilac solenoid you will have to make a connector or splice the correct plug into the harness. It changes from a weather pack connector to a metripack connector.
Forgot about that, good catch.

I tried looking for the right connector but couldn't find a part number, would be good info to have one in this thread for anyone else wanting to switch to the Cadillac solenoid
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Old May 30, 2015 | 10:23 AM
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Re: EGR and it's solenoid..?

I was able to use an egr solenoid from an LT1. They still make those. If nothing else see if you can find one at a junk yard.
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Old May 30, 2015 | 12:19 PM
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Re: EGR and it's solenoid..?

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I was able to use an egr solenoid from an LT1. They still make those. If nothing else see if you can find one at a junk yard.
I don't know how it works for you, it works in the opposite way. One is normally closed, the other is normally open. I've tested both.

The connectors and such had a write up a long time ago.

http://s9.zetaboards.com/nythirdgen/...7236770/1/#new
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