TPI Fluctuation and Stalling
TPI Fluctuation and Stalling
Hey Everyone,
I just acquired an automatic 88 IROC with a 383, bigger cam (not sure the specs on it), Edelbrock TPI and MSD Ignition. AIR system deleted. Still has EGR but is capped off.
I've been trying to figure out this stalling/fluctuating idle issue. Google/forum search has helped me troubleshoot but hasn't gotten me quite there. The car will start up and idle just fine while in open loop. Once it seems like it goes into closed loop, the idle will fluctuate between 600-1200 RPM and the car will stall if put into gear. It'll idle and go into gear just fine if I disconnect the MAF.
What I've tried so far:
I just acquired an automatic 88 IROC with a 383, bigger cam (not sure the specs on it), Edelbrock TPI and MSD Ignition. AIR system deleted. Still has EGR but is capped off.
I've been trying to figure out this stalling/fluctuating idle issue. Google/forum search has helped me troubleshoot but hasn't gotten me quite there. The car will start up and idle just fine while in open loop. Once it seems like it goes into closed loop, the idle will fluctuate between 600-1200 RPM and the car will stall if put into gear. It'll idle and go into gear just fine if I disconnect the MAF.
What I've tried so far:
- Check and confirm no vacuum leaks
- Replace MAF
- Replace O2 Sensor
- Replace and relearn IAC
- Set TPS voltage, adjust idle screw
- Adjust timing
- Reconnect EGR
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Car: 1988 Pontiac Firebird Formula
Engine: 5.7 TPI
Transmission: 700R4
Re: TPI Fluctuation and Stalling
Does the car have a custom tune for running the larger motor? And mods to the ECM? Or other electronics? Getting any codes from the ECM??
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Car: 1989 Pontiac Formula 350
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Transmission: 700R4
Axle/Gears: BorgWarner 3.27 Posi
Re: TPI Fluctuation and Stalling
If it isn't tuned she'll act all sorts of weird with a 383 and bigger cam, that's for sure.
Re: TPI Fluctuation and Stalling
Thanks for the replies.
No idea if it's been tuned. If I had to wager a guess, I'd say probably not. It was throwing a few codes including the MAF and the O2 before I replaced them and reset the computer. Haven't driven it since. Anybody know of any tuning software or anything I can use to at least look at live data?
No idea if it's been tuned. If I had to wager a guess, I'd say probably not. It was throwing a few codes including the MAF and the O2 before I replaced them and reset the computer. Haven't driven it since. Anybody know of any tuning software or anything I can use to at least look at live data?
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Car: 1967 Camaro, 91 z28
Engine: Lb9
Transmission: M20
Axle/Gears: J65 pbr on stock posi 10bolt
Re: TPI Fluctuation and Stalling
Tuner pro rt is a great program. If it hasn’t been tuned you are more than likely running $32B mask.
most update to $6e 89 mask with custom builds.
most update to $6e 89 mask with custom builds.
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Car: 1988 IROC-Z
Engine: 5.7 TPI
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Re: TPI Fluctuation and Stalling
Hey Everyone,
I just acquired an automatic 88 IROC with a 383, bigger cam (not sure the specs on it), Edelbrock TPI and MSD Ignition. AIR system deleted. Still has EGR but is capped off.
I've been trying to figure out this stalling/fluctuating idle issue. Google/forum search has helped me troubleshoot but hasn't gotten me quite there. The car will start up and idle just fine while in open loop. Once it seems like it goes into closed loop, the idle will fluctuate between 600-1200 RPM and the car will stall if put into gear. It'll idle and go into gear just fine if I disconnect the MAF.
What I've tried so far:
I just acquired an automatic 88 IROC with a 383, bigger cam (not sure the specs on it), Edelbrock TPI and MSD Ignition. AIR system deleted. Still has EGR but is capped off.
I've been trying to figure out this stalling/fluctuating idle issue. Google/forum search has helped me troubleshoot but hasn't gotten me quite there. The car will start up and idle just fine while in open loop. Once it seems like it goes into closed loop, the idle will fluctuate between 600-1200 RPM and the car will stall if put into gear. It'll idle and go into gear just fine if I disconnect the MAF.
What I've tried so far:
- Check and confirm no vacuum leaks
- Replace MAF
- Replace O2 Sensor
- Replace and relearn IAC
- Set TPS voltage, adjust idle screw
- Adjust timing
- Reconnect EGR
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Re: TPI Fluctuation and Stalling
Check the ecm and see if theres a chip adapter in it or some type of aftermarket chip with any labels on it
Re: TPI Fluctuation and Stalling
Most of the online procedures for setting the minimal idle setting leave off disconnecting the timing connector to the distributor. To do it right, it must be unplugged while setting the minimal idle speed and TPS voltage. If not, you’ll get a roving or “hunting” idle.
If you did that, I'd double check all the engine grounds. If those checked OK, pop off the cover on the ECM and make sure the prom is properly set and not loose.
If you did that, I'd double check all the engine grounds. If those checked OK, pop off the cover on the ECM and make sure the prom is properly set and not loose.
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