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Old Aug 20, 2002 | 10:47 PM
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bleeding clutch, will this way work?

ok guys unfortunatly my hose that goes to the slave cyclender was against the exhaust when i first started my 350 tonigth and it melted and well fluid is everywhere. now i need to get a new hose withc is no big deal but i hear there alo of trouble bleeding these things so my question is- can i just leave the bleeder on the slave open and pour brake fluid into the system from uptop and when it comes out of the slave my system is bled? i figure it woudl be pushing all the air out? well this seems to simple so wuts is the correct way to do it from people who have done it and have had success? thanks guys
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Old Aug 20, 2002 | 11:11 PM
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first dump in as much fluid as you can the way you said, then, do this(you will need a friend)

1. open bleeder
2. push pedal to the floor
3. close bleeder, just before the pedal hits the floor(make sure your friend doesn't let the pedal up before you close the bleeder)
4.let the pedal up, check to see how it feels.


repeat as necessary, and once you think you got it, try and start the car,

do NOT start it in a gear, you would be suprised how stong the starter is it will move the car.

start the car with the shifter in nuetral, then try and put it in a gear.

this way does work just be patient,
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Old Aug 21, 2002 | 05:46 AM
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what firechicken said sounds good but it's never worked for me. try this first: set the slave at an angle, maybe 45*, i use a steering wheel jack to hold the pedal 1/2 way down, open bleeder screw and let it gravity bleed for a while. usually i've had more luck using a pheniox preasure bleeder, but that isn't how gm says to do it, even if it works real good.
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Old Aug 21, 2002 | 07:54 AM
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I did it Firechicken's way about 10 times, but then I did 1 more step. I unbolted the slave cylinder from the trans, opened the bleeder screw and slowly compressed the piston into the slave cylinder. With the piston compressed I tightened the bleeder screw. I did this a few times. This bleeds the portion between the piston and the bleeder screw and makes all the difference in the world.
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Old Aug 21, 2002 | 08:33 AM
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jim, i never thought about that, i will add it to my method.
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Old Aug 21, 2002 | 12:17 PM
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ok well i tried the find the hose that connects the clutch master cyclinder and the slave and it is discontinued, i called liek 30 diff places and the only way i can get the hose is by buying the master and slave in a kit from the dealer for 150. this really sucks. does any1 know wut i coudl use in replacement of the hose maybe?my whole damn engine is perfect now and runs awsome but i can;t drive the car cause the tube melted threw and it wa sliek 2 inches from the header so i dunno how it happened. well if any1 can help please do. thanks
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Old Aug 21, 2002 | 12:43 PM
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on a related note, how might one go about protectic this plastic line from being melted in the future? would wrapping it up in header wrap be enough to keep it safe?
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Old Aug 21, 2002 | 02:04 PM
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I'm not sure what you could use. The hose is a pretty unique piece. I would imagine that with the new hose, if you orient it properly you won't have that problem. If it's routed properly, it shouldn't be anywhere near your header tubes.
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Old Aug 21, 2002 | 02:39 PM
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Hey guys, where is the bleeder screw located??
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Old Aug 21, 2002 | 02:51 PM
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on the slave cylinder, next to where the line connects. its more like a set screw, so if its covered with crud you'd never know it was there
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Old Aug 21, 2002 | 02:55 PM
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Does it look like a bleeder that would be found on a brake caliper?
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Old Aug 21, 2002 | 03:16 PM
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i suppose the factory one might, i was basing mine off the one i got at advanced auto, you use an allen wrench to loosen mine,
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Old Aug 21, 2002 | 04:41 PM
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hey guys just incase sum1 needs a new hose in the furure here is wut i did, my dad talked to his buddy who is a mechanic and he sent us to a store that deals with bigrig parts and said to get some brake line from a big rig cause its flexible plastic and can stand 120psi when the clutch only is 9psi. so we got some for 50cents a foot took the fittings off the old hose and used the some gasket maker and some hose clamps and its works better then the stock one caus i can route it now. oh and as of bleeding it i flilled the little res. up and only got liek 3 cap fulls so i pushed in the slave cyl. real slow and blubbles came up and the fluid went down. then i put more fluid in and did the same 3 times and no more fluid coudl go in and when i pushed in the slave no air only fluid came out and my pedel is awsome. so i will let u know how it is drivin. thanks for everything guys
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Old Aug 21, 2002 | 10:39 PM
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ya know i never thought of that stuff but he's right, so long as the clamps stay put it should work, if it can take the heat
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Old Aug 21, 2002 | 11:08 PM
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well i was able to route it so at the closest point to the header its liek 3-4 inches. it works great and no leaks. the only thign is my pedel got mushy while the car was runnin and i was adjustin the carb and timming so i can get it into gear but sometimes its hard and the clutch grabs as soon as u let the clutch up from the floor, liek a half inch i would say. so i am gonna ttake the slave off tomorrow and push it in a few times like last nigth then i will push int he clutch or have sum1 else do it and open the bleeder then let the clutch out and repeat till its solid fluid. i should be cruisin then.
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