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Old Sep 11, 2002 | 09:24 PM
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Dayco Stall Coverters?

First of all, if you have heard of them, am i spelling it right? Secondly, are they any good? Does anyone run these converters? Which converter would you recommend if not? thanks
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Old Sep 11, 2002 | 10:01 PM
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Car: 1987 Trans Am GTA
Engine: Miniram'd 383, 24X LS1 PCM
Transmission: TH700R4, 4200 stall
Axle/Gears: 9", 4.33:1
Dacco (as in Dacco Detroit - a wholesale trans parts supplier)

I had one in my recently defunct TH700R4. It is certainly not the highest quality stall made, but it did stall up to 2500rpm (or so) as it was advertised to - and it was $130. My only gripe would be that the thing would stall up to 2500 anywhere from 0 load to WOT. Most nice stall converters drive like a normal converter at partial load and stall up to the advertised flash stall speed under extreme loads (like ya know......... when you need it to stall). Mine would become slightly annoying in situations like stop and go traffic or going around a slow corner in a residential area - slow down for corner, turn, slowly apply throttle and watch it wing up to 2500 rpm, sit there at 2500 rpm or higher as the trans would go through the gears, and effectively pi$$-off every parent within a mile. So the bottom line is that the thing is very "loose" but also effective at giving you the higher stall rpm.
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Old Sep 13, 2002 | 12:12 AM
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Thanks for the experience! Anyone else have any comments? thanks
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Old Sep 13, 2002 | 09:51 PM
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Car: 1987 Trans Am GTA
Engine: Miniram'd 383, 24X LS1 PCM
Transmission: TH700R4, 4200 stall
Axle/Gears: 9", 4.33:1
I know the member that goes by ViciousZ had one in her Z28 and she hated it because of the loose feeling all of the time and ended up ditching it.......
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Old Sep 13, 2002 | 11:10 PM
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IMO DACCO's are marginal in stock, daily driver applications.
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Old Sep 13, 2002 | 11:27 PM
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They would be as close to a stock replacement than a stock one, correct? They are only like $275 or something! Was that lower portion in your post for me, or is it in your sig.? Would you recommend a stall converter for my application? thanks for the info!
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Old Sep 13, 2002 | 11:51 PM
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if you want a bit more stall in a "stock" configuration, use the S-10/vette converter.

if you want real stall, time to start looking at the 9"/10" converters...
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Old Sep 14, 2002 | 12:15 AM
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DON'T DO IT!!! I hated mine. And I mean HATED
It is certainly not the highest quality stall made, but it did stall up to 2500rpm (or so) as it was advertised to - and it was $130. My only gripe would be that the thing would stall up to 2500 anywhere from 0 load to WOT. Most nice stall converters drive like a normal converter at partial load and stall up to the advertised flash stall speed under extreme loads (like ya know......... when you need it to stall). Mine would become slightly annoying in situations like stop and go traffic or going around a slow corner in a residential area - slow down for corner, turn, slowly apply throttle and watch it wing up to 2500 rpm, sit there at 2500 rpm or higher as the trans would go through the gears, and effectively pi$$-off every parent within a mile. So the bottom line is that the thing is very "loose" but also effective at giving you the higher stall rpm.
Yeah, what he said.

I know the member that goes by ViciousZ had one in her Z28 and she hated it because of the loose feeling all of the time and ended up ditching it.......

True true. I absolutely dispised mine. So much I actually went back to the factory converter, and scrapped the Daaco for a $35 core charge. That converter was single-handedly the worst modification I ever put on that car. It made normal driving absolutely miserable. I hated it from day one. Dont do it... /rant off.
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Old Sep 14, 2002 | 07:29 AM
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Thanks guys, i think i am getting the idea. They should be good for stock but not my setup! After all you do pay for what you get. Besides, if they were a great aftermarket part, then everyone would be using them for the price! thanks
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Old Sep 15, 2002 | 06:52 AM
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Anything past 2,100-2,200 rpm stall on a 12" torque converter gets slippery, generates heat, and it is not much fun to drive at light throttle openings, starts to act like a fluid coupling (no torque multiplication). Now you can see why the factory used the 3.06 first gear.
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Old Sep 15, 2002 | 07:47 PM
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i would advise against them. they also have a reputation for being duds right out of the box. i had a good one once though. it was swell
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Old Sep 16, 2002 | 07:11 AM
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I just installed a Pro-Torque converter. Works great! It stalls around 2200-2500 and I feel a quality piece for the price (around $325).
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