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Old Feb 9, 2003 | 09:51 PM
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BW Super T10 to a Muncie

I have a 82 z28 that came with a BW Super T-10 4speed my question is it a lot of trouble to put a muncie in it. and if I do what all would i need to change in order to get it to work.
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Old Feb 9, 2003 | 09:53 PM
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Axle/Gears: Moser 9"
i don't know man but those super t-10's are pretty hoss. i wish i had one
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Old Feb 9, 2003 | 09:58 PM
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I've still got the t-10 but the only thing is it is totally disasymbled "I meen every little bit and piece" is in a box. I'd like to put the thing back in it. oh whill I'm at it how does the Toruqe arm bolt up to My T-10 anyway???? just cusious because when i got the car the tranny was already out of it.
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Old Feb 10, 2003 | 04:10 PM
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give spohn a call and see if they can come up with something. i don't think that anyone makes a direct bolt in for the t-10, however, spohn will probably do something for you.
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Old Feb 10, 2003 | 06:40 PM
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The T-10 is a far superior product to a Muncie.

Not that I would really know; I just used to run a thriving business out of my garage back in the 70s and early 80s, rebuilding 4-speeds. So I've only seen, oh, maybe a couple hundred of each, not nearly enough to know very much about them.

Why on earth would anyone in his right mind want a Muncie instead of a Warner? Granted the Muncie shifts a little slicker; but the Warner is altogether stronger. You can get a Warner to almost shift as good as a Muncie if you fill it with half ATF and half STP; not that I ever ran one like that of course.... well, maybe I did, but only for a half-decade or so...

There is no Muncie that will fit these cars without getting rid of the stock torque arm.

Lots of people (myself included) would love to have a Warner for one of these cars, even if it is in pieces. I've only ever even seen a couple of them, the majority of the 82s got Saginaw 4-speeds, which is the dung. If I had one of those I'd put just about anything in its place.

What's really going on here? Are you sure you have a Warner? What's wrong with it?
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Old Feb 10, 2003 | 09:37 PM
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We make a crossmember/torque arm kit for the T-10 and Muncie 4 speeds. It's not on the site yet, just give me a call or email.

Steve
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Old Feb 10, 2003 | 09:38 PM
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From: Bridgeport, Tx
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I know i have a T-10 because i rant the casting numbers and such and shure enoulf it is the origional t-10 that came with the car. the only thing wrong with it is someone decided one day,"hey Ill take this perfectly good 4 speed apart for the heck of it." thats all that's wrong with it. I was just just wondering it a Muncie rockcrusher would fit in the car?? because I have one complete just lying around.
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Old Feb 10, 2003 | 10:25 PM
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I JUST FOUND MY BUILD SHEET ON MY CAR AND SOME OF THE CODES READ AS THIS. TO ME THERE INTERESTING FOR THIS PARTICULAR YEAR.
GU5 3.32 AXLE RAT
G80 POSITRACTION
J65 DISC BRAKES 4
MM4 MANUAL TRANS
M24 4SPD MANUAL
Z28 SPC PERF PACK


I THINK THE AXLE # IS 2PZ THAT'S WHAT THE BUILD SHEET SAYS.
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Old Feb 11, 2003 | 07:09 AM
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No. Not without a different cross member and torque arm, to take the torque arm mount off the trans; and a different bell housing; and a different shifter.

But if you decide to do all that to your car, I want your T-10, as long as all the pieces are there.
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Old Feb 11, 2003 | 10:50 AM
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Transmission: T56
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Keep the T10 as RB83L69 suggested.I had mine rebuilt 5 years ago and pound the snot out of it with a juice addicted 355 putting out close to 550-600 on the bottle and have yet to have ANY problems with the trans.The old 10 bolt was another story..hence the now abused 12 bolt.My car's build sheet is identical to the one you posted above.I always keep an eye out for the warner equipped T10 cars to see how many are still alive.Rebuild it and use it...still will be cheaper than making a muncie work.
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