We need to put a driveshaft issue to rest.
We need to put a driveshaft issue to rest.
I just had an LS1 aluminum shaft installed in place of the stock steel one. Numerous posts have asked about the weight savings, rear wheel power gains and 1/4 mile difference but I have seen no hard data.
I asked the shop to make sure they weigh the aluminum shaft before installing it, and they promised to. When I picked my car up, they said they forgot. I wanted to smack him in the head with the steel shaft.
The stock steel driveshaft in our cars weighs 16 pounds. If anyone can weigh an LS1 aluminum shaft, please post the result so we can put this debate to rest.
I asked the shop to make sure they weigh the aluminum shaft before installing it, and they promised to. When I picked my car up, they said they forgot. I wanted to smack him in the head with the steel shaft.
The stock steel driveshaft in our cars weighs 16 pounds. If anyone can weigh an LS1 aluminum shaft, please post the result so we can put this debate to rest.
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Originally posted by ede
the weight differance between 2 static parts isn't the big issue, it's the differance in rotating mass that is
the weight differance between 2 static parts isn't the big issue, it's the differance in rotating mass that is
yup, just how a trans can be heavier than another but still let more hp to the rear wheels beause of less rotating mass....
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Its not just the weight difference, but also the fact that aluminum is very absorbant of driveline disturbances. Less vibrations will be transmitted into the passenger compartment with an aluminum than with a steel.
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Car: 89 IROC
Engine: ZZ4
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rotating mass
Originally posted by esams
One pound of rotating weight = 7 pounds dry weight for 1/4 reduction. Yes that's why I bought.
One pound of rotating weight = 7 pounds dry weight for 1/4 reduction. Yes that's why I bought.
If my 2-15x7 IROC rims w/235 60s weigh a total of 96lbs and a set of draglites w/25x4.5 frontrunners weigh 42lbs the difference is 54lbs. 54lbs multiplied by 7 is 378lbs.
Do wheels/tires qualify as rotating weight? Would skinnies be worth as much as 3 tenths? On a 12 sec. car?
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From: N. Illinois
Car: 92 GTA/ 00 TA
Engine: 383/350
Transmission: 700R4/T-56
I'll be pulling the driveshaft out of my 00 TA soon. Need to replace the rear pinion seal. I'll weight the shaft at that time BUT it will be weighed with the yoke and u-joints.
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Car: '91 t-top RS; '91 hrdtp Z28
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I'm not sure how much the aluminum ds weighs, but I can tell you that there is no sotp difference.
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Car: 1991 Camaro RS
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Transmission: 700R-4
Axle/Gears: 10-bolt w/3.73s
Originally posted by esams
One pound of rotating weight = 7 pounds dry weight for 1/4 reduction. Yes that's why I bought.
One pound of rotating weight = 7 pounds dry weight for 1/4 reduction. Yes that's why I bought.
-Brian
Rotational weight is any moving part in your car, from engine to tires.
"As a general rule" (but of course not accurate in all situtions):
Any part of that you can reduce in actual weight results in your 1/4 mile time being reduced by 7 times more than if it were dry weight."
Ditching 100 lbs. of dry weight gets you a .1 sec. quicker time. So if you can gain .7 by ditching 100 lbs. of rotating weight, that's very cool.
Look at this site. These guys would smoke most of us. Notice they all have slicks and skinnies on lightweight drag wheels:
http://temp.corvetteforum.net/c4/bea...nSet-ups.shtml
"As a general rule" (but of course not accurate in all situtions):
Any part of that you can reduce in actual weight results in your 1/4 mile time being reduced by 7 times more than if it were dry weight."
Ditching 100 lbs. of dry weight gets you a .1 sec. quicker time. So if you can gain .7 by ditching 100 lbs. of rotating weight, that's very cool.
Look at this site. These guys would smoke most of us. Notice they all have slicks and skinnies on lightweight drag wheels:
http://temp.corvetteforum.net/c4/bea...nSet-ups.shtml
Last edited by esams; Mar 22, 2003 at 11:32 PM.
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Car: 86 LG4 & 92 TBI Firebird
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Transmission: 700R4
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I weighed mine when I put on the 1LE shaft.
Stock 2.5" steel = 16 pounds
1LE 2.75" Al = 12 pounds
Stock 2.5" steel = 16 pounds
1LE 2.75" Al = 12 pounds
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Drag wheels and skinnies are the single best weight reduction mod you can do. 
