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Old Oct 11, 2003 | 09:06 PM
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4 speed swap to a t-5

hi , does any one know if the floor bord on a factory 82 camaro 4speed car will take a t-5 with out cuting or changing the floor ?
can any one tell me what else i might need to change ?
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Old Oct 12, 2003 | 01:58 AM
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You will have to cut the floor for the shifter. There is no way around this.
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Old Oct 14, 2003 | 12:10 PM
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why would you have to cut the floor, if you have a 4-speed manual, there should already be a hole there from the old shift, it might need to be enlarged a little bit, but thats no big deal.

now if you have a 4-speed automatic, then its a different story.

as for the 4spd to 5spd swap, you need the pedals, the hydralic clutch linkage, the tranny, the bellhousing, a new clutch plate (26 spline), and a shifter.... i believe
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Old Oct 14, 2003 | 05:46 PM
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can i use my old bell housing an zbar stuff if i dont want hydrolic stuff ? how hard would it be to make it hyd clutch ?
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Old Oct 15, 2003 | 02:15 PM
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You'll need to change the bellhousing, as the T5 mounts at an angle, while the Saginaw or T-10 in the 82 mounts straight across. Two options for this: Lakewood makes one, but costs over $200 (I forget exactly how much - $230 rings a bell); or, get a hard-to-find T5 bellhousing out of an 83 - it is drilled at the angle for the T5 plus it has provisions for the mechanical linkage.
You can switch over to hydraulics by changing the clutch pedal arm, enlarging and drilling a couple of holes to mount the master cylinder, but it's a pain in the cramped engine compartment unless the engine is out. You'll also need to swap the clutch disc and use a driveshaft from a T5 or 700R4 Camaro/Firebird.
I swapped to the hydraulic system when I did the V6-V8 swap in my 83 Camaro.

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Old Mar 17, 2004 | 03:07 PM
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If you are still looking I found an 83 Belinetta in one of the local yards with the complete 5spd mechanical linkage setup. They want $550.00 for it though.
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Old Mar 17, 2004 | 04:39 PM
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Car: '83 Z28, '07 Charger SRT8
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Axle/Gears: 2.73 posi, 3.06 posi
Are T10/T5 driveshafts and torque arms the same?
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Old Mar 18, 2004 | 01:11 AM
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Originally posted by Air_Adam
Are T10/T5 driveshafts and torque arms the same?
Not 100% sure of the torque arm, but the driveshafts are different lengths - the T10/Saginaw one is longer.
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Old Mar 18, 2004 | 06:46 AM
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what u doing with tha 4spd is it a man or a auto cause i've been looking for a new one my 700 r4 is making grinding nosis and i need a new tranny
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Old Mar 18, 2004 | 02:18 PM
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I'm sure he's talking about a 4 speed manual trans.
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