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Old Jan 13, 2004 | 02:54 PM
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Car: 1991 RS Camaro (Jet Black)
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T-56 came in today, couple of ?'s

Ok, right now its at a shipping company I just went to go check it out and everything looks real good engine and tranny.

However, im playing with the shifter and I can't seem to find reverse, is there a reverse lock out switch on the T-56's because the car has the clutch and all hooked up I could put it in 1-6 but could not find reverse.

I would disconnect it however, I am waiting for a friend to get off work to use his truck and take it to my garage. Is this normal?

Btw, man I love the way the shifter feels, it has some sort of aftermarket shift **** on it, but man its just so stiff, it stays in gear so easily, feels pretty beefy, can't wait to do some downshifting with it. :rockon: :rockon: :rockon:
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Old Jan 13, 2004 | 03:44 PM
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sometimes its tough to get a manual trans in and out of every gear if the engine is not spinning. The synchro's (or gears) don't exactly line up, if you wiggle the shifter in and out, sometimes you can get it to go into every gear. This is especially true in reverse, as alot of transmissions aren't syncrhonized in reverse(like a muncie or t-5 or t-10). I'm not sure about the T56 though, it may have a lockout also, you might have to pull up on the ****, or push down on the **** to get it in gear.
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Old Jan 13, 2004 | 03:45 PM
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Re: T-56 came in today, couple of ?'s

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Ok, right now its at a shipping company I just went to go check it out and everything looks real good engine and tranny.

However, im playing with the shifter and I can't seem to find reverse, is there a reverse lock out switch on the T-56's because the car has the clutch and all hooked up I could put it in 1-6 but could not find reverse.

I would disconnect it however, I am waiting for a friend to get off work to use his truck and take it to my garage. Is this normal?

Btw, man I love the way the shifter feels, it has some sort of aftermarket shift **** on it, but man its just so stiff, it stays in gear so easily, feels pretty beefy, can't wait to do some downshifting with it. :rockon: :rockon: :rockon:
It probably needs to be spun a bit. My T56 will not always go into reverse. It may be line up just right so that the gears don't mesh. I usualy have to just press on the shifter and slowly let the lcutch out and it will pop into gear. Try to turn the imput shaft a bit and try again.
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Old Jan 13, 2004 | 03:48 PM
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if the car was running, id say put it in a diff gear, then into reverse....


since its out, have someone turn the input shaft back and forth as you put it into reverse. and yea, its a lil stiff to get it over that far too...... you have to push thru the lockout.
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Old Jan 13, 2004 | 04:47 PM
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it has a reverse lockout solenoid on the right side. push really hard and you'll be able to push through the solenoid and into reverse. All should be well.

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Old Jan 13, 2004 | 05:32 PM
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Alright cool, figured it did, thanks for the feed back guys.
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Old Jan 13, 2004 | 07:35 PM
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You're probably coming up against the reverse lockout solenoid. You really have to slam it sideways to get into the reverse gate. It's especially difficult when the trans isn't mounted in the car and you're just doing it on the bench or floor.

I always go from 1st to reverse in my T56. Most transmissions seem to be like this. The T5 wants 5th and then reverse. My WRX wants the 1-reverse pattern. It has to do with the lack of reverse synchronizers as mentioned.
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Old Jan 13, 2004 | 08:14 PM
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Yea, I always went from 5th to reverse in the T-5, inever tried 1st to reverse on the t-56. Im not worried as long as its normal, I have no need to ram it in there, I don't want to harm anything. Thanks again.
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Old Jan 13, 2004 | 08:30 PM
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Oh I also wanted to ask, what is skip shift? My t-56 is out of a 95 trans am so im sure it had skip shift. Is skip shift built directly into the T-56 or the PCM? If so its coming out, I don't need no computer doing work for me, hell thats why I drive a standard.

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Old Jan 13, 2004 | 10:09 PM
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I has to do with the PCM. Just don't connect the solenoid.
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Old Jan 13, 2004 | 10:31 PM
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The skip shift, or CAGS (computer aided gear selection), is a solenoid on the side of the trans. It's on the side of the four bolt top cover plate. Without the computer controlling it it won't work. A M22 drain plug with a flat rubber gasket plugs the hole perfectly if you want to remove the solenoid.
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Old Jan 13, 2004 | 10:38 PM
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Re: T-56 came in today, couple of ?'s

Originally posted by pasky
I could put it in 1-6 but could not find reverse.
Push real hard and you'll find it. You can "crash" through into the reverse gate unless you're a real lightweight.


Originally posted by TKOPerformance
I always go from 1st to reverse in my T56.
Waste of time with the synchronized reverse.


Originally posted by pasky
Oh I also wanted to ask, what is skip shift? My t-56 is out of a 95 trans am so im sure it had skip shift. Is skip shift built directly into the T-56 or the PCM? If so its coming out, I don't need no computer doing work for me, hell thats why I drive a standard.
The solenoid guides the shift interlock that TKOperf. alludes to. It guides you from 1 to 4. On cars with intact CAGS, I like to shift 1-3 when CAGS is trying for 4th.

TKOperf: thx for the tip on a CAGS solenoid plug.
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Old Jan 13, 2004 | 10:48 PM
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Car: '86 Camaro, '02 WRX, '87 K5, '67
Engine: 350 TPI, 2.0turbo, 383 in the works, 289-4BBL, 232, A-head 4-cylinder
Transmission: T56, 5-speed, 700R4, C4, T176, semi-auto 2-speed
Axle/Gears: 3.73, 3.90, 4.88, 3.55, 3.54, 7.00
Yeah, I just took the solenoid to NAPA and matched up a plug. I didn't want something hanging off my trans that didn't do anything. I deleted the CAGS arm inside the trans too, but that's a lot of work if you aren't already rebuilding the trans. I wanted all of it gone. I consider it an abomination.

Old habits die hard with the 1-reverse shift. I did just put it in reverse a couple of times and it didn't grind.
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Old Jan 13, 2004 | 10:51 PM
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Originally posted by TKOPerformance
Yeah, I just took the solenoid to NAPA and matched up a plug. I didn't want something hanging off my trans that didn't do anything. I deleted the CAGS arm inside the trans too,
similar topic: I was kinda impressed w/ a pictorial on a Cobra kit car forum where the guy had put the shifter where the 4bolt cover goes. Cut the shift rail and mounted a shfiter lever to it, and retained the interlock plate somehow.


Old habits die hard with the 1-reverse shift. I did just put it in reverse a couple of times and it didn't grind.
You didn't believe me didja?
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Old Jan 13, 2004 | 10:56 PM
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There are companies out there that are offering several different shifter mounting locations for the T56. One is where the factory 4-bolt cover goes, as with the Cobra you saw (they have a big problem with shifter placement because the engine is set back so far). I know the Viper tailshaft housing mounts the shifter father forward, so that's another option. The T56 has been used in so many applications that it's totally possible to get different locations just with the factory stuff.
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Old Jan 17, 2004 | 02:14 PM
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t-56 couple of questions

ok guys i have a t-56 out of a 93 and i am trying to put it in my 87 gta. i need to know if the braket from the old t5 for the torque arm can be used for the new t-56??? i dont have one that came with my t-56 so where could i get one if the t-5 one wont work??
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Old Jan 17, 2004 | 02:17 PM
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Axle/Gears: 3.73, 3.90, 4.88, 3.55, 3.54, 7.00
No, you need a 4th gen torque arm bracket. I'm sure you can get it from GM, or a salvage yard if there's one around you that has cars like that (we don't around here, they all go to high perf salvage places).
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Old Jan 17, 2004 | 04:52 PM
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Originally posted by TKOPerformance
No, you need a 4th gen torque arm bracket. I'm sure you can get it from GM, or a salvage yard if there's one around you that has cars like that (we don't around here, they all go to high perf salvage places).
Im quite sure I used the one from my T5 when I installed my T56, just cant use one from an auto....
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Old Jan 17, 2004 | 06:00 PM
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You know what? You could very well be right. I swapped from a 700R4 to a T56. I looked over the torque arm mount toroughly and took a couple of measurements before I determined it wouldn't work, so I used the one on the T56.

T5s may be different, but I figured they weren't. Shouldn't have assumed that.
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Old Jan 19, 2004 | 01:12 AM
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Originally posted by TKOPerformance
You know what? You could very well be right. I swapped from a 700R4 to a T56. I looked over the torque arm mount toroughly and took a couple of measurements before I determined it wouldn't work, so I used the one on the T56.

T5s may be different, but I figured they weren't. Shouldn't have assumed that.
Yes the T5 and 700R4 mount are different cant interchange them
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Old Jan 19, 2004 | 05:48 PM
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t-56 came in couple of ??s

hey thanx for the info. i already swapped my 700r4 to a t-5 and so i have the torque arm bracket for the t-5. i remeber that the mount that bolts into the bracket (basically the part that wraps around the torque arm to hold it to the bracket that bolts intot he tranny) was taller than my auto one. it seams the torque arm i have is different than the one this t-5 tranny came out of. how can i fix that problem?? can i get a different bushing?? or what do i need to make it so my original torque arm will fit into my torque arm mount and bracket that i have for my t-5 that i will use for my t-56. i figure while i have it on a lift and have free autoshop time i might as well fix everything i can.
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