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Old Mar 8, 2004 | 10:23 AM
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putting 4thgen pedals in a 3rdgen.

first off.. it was posted many many times that its a direct bolt in.

bullsh!t.

its ALMOST a bolt in... but you do need to drill.



first off... the 4 bolts that attach to the brake booster... the 3rdgen holes are larger...... so you need to drill out the holes on the pedal bracket..


2nd the gas pedal assembly is seperate from the rest of the pedals on a 3rdgen... 4thgen pedals have them as one piece.
you already have to take out the 2 nuts holding the steering column up so it drops down.... but the pedals still wont fit over the column because of the gas pedal.
to wedge the gas pedal over, you need to remove the pedal itself.. just pop the clip off and it slips out... its not too big of a PITA to put back on because the pivoit is low.

as far as the clutch pedal holes that double for the clutch master cyl, they're at a angle.... you can make them straight by tightning them.. because i was converting from a auto, i drilled the holes so they did line up... i still have to make one of the holes a little ovalish to allow the bolt to come thru when its at a angle.. as i tightened the bolt, the angle was flattened out... and it fit...i doubt it will just fit up to existing holes on a 3rdgen, but it should be close.

if i had a 2nd person to be underhood while i was under the dash, it wouldnt have been too bad, but its a PITA by yourself. enlist the help of a buddy if possible. the 2 person part is holding the u bolt for the clutch cyl up on the firewall while getting the angled clutch pedal bracket on it and the nut started.

overall id rate the entire experiance the same as a spark plug change.. a PITA but totally doable.. and once you've done it once, you can do it faster next time.
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Old Mar 8, 2004 | 10:36 AM
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Yeah I just did my T-5 swap like two weeks ago except I had a whole nother donor thirdgen car. It was still a PITA to put the pedals on and I would NEVER want to do it again.
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Old Mar 8, 2004 | 10:58 AM
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Ahh, it's not that bad. I do recommend using the 3rdgen pedal assembly though. I had my pedals in and the brake light sensor, and cruise control sensor all ajusted in less than an hour.

Now, cutting the hole on the firewall for the clutch master cylinder was a PAIN in the ****!
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Old Mar 8, 2004 | 12:03 PM
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Originally posted by 1bad91Z
Ahh, it's not that bad. I do recommend using the 3rdgen pedal assembly though. I had my pedals in and the brake light sensor, and cruise control sensor all ajusted in less than an hour.

Now, cutting the hole on the firewall for the clutch master cylinder was a PAIN in the ****!
i bought a brand new metal hole saw from lowes... and it cut thru the firewall like butter.... soooo much easier then i expected..



anyhoo, like i said, not too bad, but you wont enjoy doing it.


on the plus side though, i have 4thgen pedals now, so all my pedals are even when i use the t56 master cyl.... if you use the 3rdgen one, they dont all line up perfectly.

main reason i used 4thgen ones is because i got everything from a 95 formula.



the point of this topic is just that i wanted to share they they DONT just bolt up... they fit, but you have to drill some. elsewhere on this board, there are several posts stating they bolt right in.
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