Torque Converter Help
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Torque Converter Help
I have a cam in my zz4 motor that has a power range from 2500 to 6000 rpms. I have a stock 1200 stall in it now, and i drive my camaro every day. Currently I am running the 1/8 mile in 8.7 seconds at 83 mph. It peels out pretty nasty, and breaks loose in 2nd. but i am launching it at 1,000. I have purchased slicks, and i want to put a stall in to be able to launch it quciker to drop those 60ft times (2.3) and to get a quciker overall time. Do you think a stall would be a good idea, and what stall speed should i go with. Keep in mind I do drive this car every day.
if you want excellent performance use a 2800 stall 10/12 converter.this thing will only stall this high when powerbraking and will flash to 3000 upon releasing the brake.the use of the lock up clutch will still conserve fuel when cruising at the convertor will act like a stocker untill you put your foot in it.what is the final drive(rear end ratio)?if the engine wont ingest air above 6000 rpms this will give you roughly.3000 rpms in each gear to accellerate the car,perfect for a naturally aspirated engine of that size.lock the converter and your back to factory cruise rpm.this will get the car moving from a dead stop,a huge increase in performance.
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Originally posted by chris718
if you want excellent performance use a 2800 stall 10/12 converter.this thing will only stall this high when powerbraking and will flash to 3000 upon releasing the brake.the use of the lock up clutch will still conserve fuel when cruising at the convertor will act like a stocker untill you put your foot in it.what is the final drive(rear end ratio)?if the engine wont ingest air above 6000 rpms this will give you roughly.3000 rpms in each gear to accellerate the car,perfect for a naturally aspirated engine of that size.lock the converter and your back to factory cruise rpm.this will get the car moving from a dead stop,a huge increase in performance.
if you want excellent performance use a 2800 stall 10/12 converter.this thing will only stall this high when powerbraking and will flash to 3000 upon releasing the brake.the use of the lock up clutch will still conserve fuel when cruising at the convertor will act like a stocker untill you put your foot in it.what is the final drive(rear end ratio)?if the engine wont ingest air above 6000 rpms this will give you roughly.3000 rpms in each gear to accellerate the car,perfect for a naturally aspirated engine of that size.lock the converter and your back to factory cruise rpm.this will get the car moving from a dead stop,a huge increase in performance.
i was looking at the B&M holeshot 2500, but is your idea of the converter better, in a sense for street driving?
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no ,whatever converter clutch scheduling you have will be the same.itll lock under the same conditions as it does now.its just a matter of putting it .i mean that even with the high stall of the torque converter it will be the same as any other when locked up ie no slippage between the crankshaft and input shaft of the transmission.
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Originally posted by chris718
no ,whatever converter clutch scheduling you have will be the same.itll lock under the same conditions as it does now.its just a matter of putting it .i mean that even with the high stall of the torque converter it will be the same as any other when locked up ie no slippage between the crankshaft and input shaft of the transmission.
no ,whatever converter clutch scheduling you have will be the same.itll lock under the same conditions as it does now.its just a matter of putting it .i mean that even with the high stall of the torque converter it will be the same as any other when locked up ie no slippage between the crankshaft and input shaft of the transmission.
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whatever you do, don't buy any of that b&m junk! just bought an ati converter. paid ALOT for it, but it's the best on the market if you ask me. listen to Chris. he knows what he is talking about. make sure he has all the specs for your motor, then he can get you the optimum stall speed for your specs.
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Originally posted by mw66nova
whatever you do, don't buy any of that b&m junk! just bought an ati converter. paid ALOT for it, but it's the best on the market if you ask me. listen to Chris. he knows what he is talking about. make sure he has all the specs for your motor, then he can get you the optimum stall speed for your specs.
whatever you do, don't buy any of that b&m junk! just bought an ati converter. paid ALOT for it, but it's the best on the market if you ask me. listen to Chris. he knows what he is talking about. make sure he has all the specs for your motor, then he can get you the optimum stall speed for your specs.
Why are b/m converters junk? Have you tried them? I'm just asking because I was thinking about geting a holeshot that stalls about 2400.
I'm sure the ATI is better on the street but just wondering if you've had bad experience with b/m which would steer me away from them. thanks.
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never wasted my own money on them, but a few of my friends have, and all of those guys ended up tearing them up. and none of them were making gross hp levels either. if you call a place that builds them, and give them the cars specs, they will build one exactly for what the car needs. i installed mine last weekend, and it stalls right at 2400rpm.
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