Today i got into a race with a honda civic SI. we were going about 50mph when the raced started, well as i started to pull around 70mph and soforth well when i got to 115mph my stupid govener kit in. is there anyway to get rid of that. i would of won for sure. help me plz!!

 

To my knowledge, nothing in your transmission is limiting your max speed.

 

Burning your own chip is where it's at.

 

shouldn't need to race a Civic past 60

 

Why do you want to go faster than 115 in a stock 305 TBI car. At that point the car has long stoped accelerating. As stated above, it can be set higher in the chip.

 

If it stopped accelerating, he wouldn't hit the limiter. I have a hard time believing a TBI RS is drag limited to ~115.

 

Its not drag limited, its HP limited. You're talking about a car that has maybe 150hp to the wheels...

 

You drive an automatic. Get off my nuts.

Just kidding. Seriously though, I don't see why the car wouldn't hit 125.

115 is pretty low is all.

 

I thought it was a fuel cutoff for 115mph in the TBI cars....

The top speed will just depend on the gearing. 125 might be doable but how many miles of highway is it going to take to wind the tbi out that far?

 

Maybe he was a going down a steep hill?

 

Let the TBI bashing begin!

 

You know what I mean. I didn't mean this literally. It takes forever to go from 100 to 115 in a stock TBI car. In the physics realm you are right. In the racing realm the TBI car is the dead beat loser taking forever to go from 100 to 115.

 

i dont agree with that shifty. my car goes pretty fast from 100-115 and you know what i have in my car. i think my car is blessed really do.

 

Yes I agree...behold the almighty 305 TBI pulling on a Honda at 70mph...

 

Im serious.... why would i lie about something like that??i just dont have a stock 305. you got to belive me.

 

I believe you and I am talking about these cars when stock. We all know how these cars wake up a bit when modded.

It is a matter of opinion since this is a non quantifiable thing. The feeling is fast to some people and slow to others. When you drive a few other cars the pull you feel seems less and less "strong". To me it did anyways. I am not talking about LT1 or LS1 cars either. I am talking about cars that exhibit the same high speed acceleration. My stock 05 cavalier pulls harder past 100 than my stock LO3 did. Sure, they (LO3’s) are faster than some cars but your average 4 door V6 car shouldn't have any problem matching that acceleration. I had a few high speed races in my day back when my Lo3 was stock and I rarely won. This includes Z24's, malibu’s (the new FWD version here, lol), and a whole other assortment of daily driver type cars. This is stock of course.

I raced my buds 02 SS in my LO3 about 2 years ago when I had every bolt on possible (before the cam) and we went from a 100 roll. This was for humorous reasons only by the way. By the time I hit my limiter he was so far ahead I couldn't have told you what car he was in if I had to. Sure that is apples to oranges but it is also performance to non-performance. That’s how I look at it since my value of acceleration was so poor. If a stock LO3 it hangs with your average car at 100mph than it is not fast.

These discussions always come back up and they always end the same. This is a non-quantifiable thing. We all interpret acceleration differently.

 

Good points made by all. However, the man asked how to get past his governor, and that's just a matter of doing a search. There are a few articles on disabling the VSS, or Vehicle Speed Sensor, or something like that--interrupting the circuit between the tranny and the ECM with a switch. Then you can hit Warp 9 no problem, with the Service Engine Light on, until you flip the switch again so your ECM can read speeds and you become a mere mortal again. *However it is not the smartest idea, (unless you've built your car up for it) and neither is street racing. I don't do it, but I confess to once totally wiping a VTEC Honda that was messing with me at freeway speeds, downshift, gone. Don't race though, can lose you your car and more. Save it for the strip, or stretches of deserted road. You have a cool car, and there's nothing to prove to a guy in a (ahem) Honda.

Of course you pulled on the Honda--my car has a VTEC-obliterating blastoff from 70 to 100mph. Yes, after 100, the acceleration is less dramatic, and there will be no big downshifts without shrapnel. However, was doing 100 tonight, at about 2300 rpm and still pulling hard, and I've had her to 115 no problem, so I imagine a good running TBI car with a couple of mods and no governor would go much faster. *I don't do it because I want my motor to last until I can afford a rebuild/swap, and because I have yet to rebuild my suspension completely or install a balanced aluminum driveshaft, or upgrade my brakes, switch to 130+mph tires or any of the other things you should do before setting landspeed records. I rarely go over 90, and if so only for a short burst. Our cars are fastest off the line anyway, so you will see more people trying to race you on the freeway than at a stoplight.

Anyways, good luck with your machine, keep building that thing, and baby it, and you and the car will last a long time. Oh yeah, and disable the VSS, and I bet you will hit at least 135, much more with mods found on this site.

 

hey pancho villa thanks for the help on the govener. i dont really go over 90 myself but when i need to i will. if you know what i mean. but yeah racing is dumd when it comes to street racing. is that why imports like to race on the freeway instead off a light?

 

My 91rs did the same thing its a speed limit set in the chip. For the stock s rated tires. another reason to get into burning your own proms. If your going to build and modify a efi car these days you have to learn.

 

And of all the TBI programs I've looked at, it seems that the parameter loaded in is "118" for fuel cutoff MPH, and "115" for fuel enable MPH. It's extremely easy to program around, and far more effective than disabling the VSS, so you can run an auto trans in TCC lockup at those speeds.

 

im really started to get into burning my own chips. it sounds very exciting. is there something i should know about before i get into it. kinda of scared.