everywhere i go they say get the pedal setup from a t5 thirdgen, but i was wondering if the pedal setup from a t56 would work?

any clues?

i ask this because availability on a pedal assy from a 4th gen t56 car is better than 3rd gen t5 cars.

thanks for the input.

 

you can use either, sometimes you buy the tranny and everything to convert to manual comes with it anyhow

 

well i have been pondering doing the conversion for a long time, but i would rather tinker with my LT1 than mess with a th200... either way, i will be doing the conversion someday, but right now i might be going back overseas for a long time and it wouldnt make any sense to try to get it all done beforehand.

but i do remember how hard it was to find good pedals a couple years ago when i wanted to do it... so i just wanted to get some locked down, sort of for piece of mind.

so youre positive that a pedal assy out of a 4th gen will work in a 3rd gen auto to manual conversion? if thats the case, why does everyone suggest getting all the manual parts from a t5 donor car?

EDIT: also on a side note, i have custom kick pannel speakers (5.25) on both kick pannels, does anyone on here have a manual car with those kick pannels, it looks like it may interfere? thanks.

 

not real sure why, other than they are probably cheaper and work just as well. but it's pretty common nowadays for people to sell T56's as a complete conversion, which includes pedals.

 

do kick pannel speakers interfere with the clutch pedal?

 

With the 4th gen pedals, the clutch pedal does not travel its full range.

It also takes a bit more work to mount them, you may need to drill some more holes, a search may be of some assistance to you.

 

are you posting out of experience or is this whats been said on the boards? not that i dont believe you, but i'd like to also talk with someone who has actually done the swap and tried (succeeded or failed) using 4th gen pedals.

 

i have done the swap. and tho i can't comment on wether or not the clutch pedal travels teh full distance... if it doesn't, it's such a small amount because teh clutch works regardless. you should have no problems using 4th gen pedals

and what transam said... you do need to slightly enlarge the holes in teh brake pedal for the booster bolts to come through. and just chop off the gas pedal on the 4th gen setup, you don't need it

 

i have 4th gen pedals in my 89 camaro, but the clutch isnt pushing all the way in. is there a way around that or should i go with 3rd gen pedals. thanks.

 

I've read it numerous times. Somewhere on the boards or in one of the T-56 swap articles. I'll post the articles I have when I get home.

 

thanks

 

This isn't everything, just what I have found since my harddrive crashed.

http://www.drivetrain.com/transmanualT56.html

http://www.billygrahamscamaro.com/

http://www.dakotadigital.com/Detail....-5/product.htm

http://www.fbodymotorsports.com/thirdgen5spdconversion

http://www.carolinaclutch.com/caroli...erformance.htm

http://www.sallee-chevrolet.com/Borg...bwt56pics.html

http://www.skulte.com/T56.html

 

just a suggestion... i don't know what your budget is. and i'm guessing you don't already have an electric speedometer. but i would highly reccommend getting an autometer electric speedo. no need for the dakota digital box, the speedo is self calibrating, doesn't matter what gears you have, or if you do a gear change, it will calibrate itself and it's pretty dead accurate. like i said if you have the budget to do so, i would go that route. seems like it saves a few headaches

 

i have a gauge cluster out of an 88 formula which i believe uses the VSS no? and if that doesnt work, will this autometer gauge retain stock appearance? i dont need 50 crazy gauges cramping my interior.

 

i'm not real sure about TA's... they may have switched over to VSS sooner than maros.... someone can correct me on that one. i think maybe your best bet if your concerend about looking stock is finding whatever year cluster is VSS and goin with one of them. if you wanted to get a more modded look, then go autometers

 

Firebirds did have an electric speedo earlier then maros. I believe 90 for maros and 87 for firebirds. Someone needs to back me up on this.

 

Hey about the electronic speedo...

Its self calibrating, but you still need to send a signal to the ECM so how does that work? can this speedo adjust for that as well?

 

it's been awhile since i installed it... but i think it has an output that goes to the ecm. you could probably look up the instruction sheet on autometer's site and double check. but i'm pretty sure thats how it works

 

but does it put out the right VSS signal for a speed density setup? or does it give out the T56 VSS signal which is very different.