wierd transmission problem on an engine swap
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From: hollyworld
Car: 1989 Camaro RS
Engine: 30-****-5
Transmission: 700R4
wierd transmission problem on an engine swap
ok... ill start at the beginneing...
my crappy little 305 took a big dump on me so i got all sorts of mad and tore the sucker out...
my replacement...
a 1967 327 out of a vette... been redone but cam size is unknown... holley alum. intake (dominator II) and holley 650 cfm double pumper carb...
i did all the proper mods to make the carb model work and by *** it all works and drives... but its the driving i cant figure out...
everything is set now except for timing and air/fuel ratio thingy on the carb... (someone else is gonna set this stuff i dont understand it)
but in driving it today... in drive... it will not break 2000 rpm in 3rd gear... mph will rise but not rpms... its like its being locked down. it revs through fine clear up to 5500rpm in N... and if you manually shift through 1st and 2nd itll go fine and shift fine... but 3rd is gay...
it did this with my 305 before it died
if you layed into it it would go into passing gear and do some lockdown BS before the SES light would kick on and lock down the rpms... if you pulled over and restarted the car... no problem... i thought it was the knock sensor but now i dont know...
i have not pulled the computer OUT yet... but in theory it should not be controlling anything at all... so i think ill take it out in case its still controlling something on my tranny
the cables that used to be on the old 305 were the cruise cable.. throttle... and another one... i had to make a bracket to accomodate the throttle and the other one... i mounted the second one based on the idea that it needed enogh pressure at all times to be just taunt... but pulled tight when carb was wide open... so thats what i tried to do... does that have anything to do with it???
by the way the tranny has been replaced and i have no idea what it came out of... but it is still a 700 r4...
anyone who has any ideas would be cool if they submitted it...
my crappy little 305 took a big dump on me so i got all sorts of mad and tore the sucker out...
my replacement...
i did all the proper mods to make the carb model work and by *** it all works and drives... but its the driving i cant figure out...
everything is set now except for timing and air/fuel ratio thingy on the carb... (someone else is gonna set this stuff i dont understand it)
but in driving it today... in drive... it will not break 2000 rpm in 3rd gear... mph will rise but not rpms... its like its being locked down. it revs through fine clear up to 5500rpm in N... and if you manually shift through 1st and 2nd itll go fine and shift fine... but 3rd is gay...
it did this with my 305 before it died
if you layed into it it would go into passing gear and do some lockdown BS before the SES light would kick on and lock down the rpms... if you pulled over and restarted the car... no problem... i thought it was the knock sensor but now i dont know...i have not pulled the computer OUT yet... but in theory it should not be controlling anything at all... so i think ill take it out in case its still controlling something on my tranny
the cables that used to be on the old 305 were the cruise cable.. throttle... and another one... i had to make a bracket to accomodate the throttle and the other one... i mounted the second one based on the idea that it needed enogh pressure at all times to be just taunt... but pulled tight when carb was wide open... so thats what i tried to do... does that have anything to do with it???
by the way the tranny has been replaced and i have no idea what it came out of... but it is still a 700 r4...
anyone who has any ideas would be cool if they submitted it...
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From: Newark, DE
Car: '86 Camaro, '02 WRX, '87 K5, '67
Engine: 350 TPI, 2.0turbo, 383 in the works, 289-4BBL, 232, A-head 4-cylinder
Transmission: T56, 5-speed, 700R4, C4, T176, semi-auto 2-speed
Axle/Gears: 3.73, 3.90, 4.88, 3.55, 3.54, 7.00
You've got a couple problems going on. First, the computer does control something in the trans. It controls the lockup function of the torque converter. If you decide to remove the computer you need to make sure that the converter can still lock up by using a toggle switch system, a relay system, or a hydrauic lockup system.
Also, the "other" cable is the TV or throttle valve cable for the trans. A 700R4 will not work right without this cable connected and opperating properly. The cables are designed to auto adjust in stock applications. You depress a tab, push the adjuster all the way in,a nd release the tab. Then manually open the throttle all the way and the cable will ratched into adjustment. This may still work on the bracket you made. If the cable is out of adjustment range adjust the bracket. The adjuster should not be all the way in, or all the way out. If it is you've got a problem.
The triggering of the SES light with the original combination makes me think that there may also be a problem with the converter, or the trans. It could have been locking up in 3rd gear, and failing to unlock with acceleration. Get everything else sorted out first,a nd then start looking at other possible problems. You've got to attack these problems systematically or you'll end up spending a lot of money and time for nothing.
Also, the "other" cable is the TV or throttle valve cable for the trans. A 700R4 will not work right without this cable connected and opperating properly. The cables are designed to auto adjust in stock applications. You depress a tab, push the adjuster all the way in,a nd release the tab. Then manually open the throttle all the way and the cable will ratched into adjustment. This may still work on the bracket you made. If the cable is out of adjustment range adjust the bracket. The adjuster should not be all the way in, or all the way out. If it is you've got a problem.
The triggering of the SES light with the original combination makes me think that there may also be a problem with the converter, or the trans. It could have been locking up in 3rd gear, and failing to unlock with acceleration. Get everything else sorted out first,a nd then start looking at other possible problems. You've got to attack these problems systematically or you'll end up spending a lot of money and time for nothing.
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