How much can you build up a wc t5 versus a nwc?
12-15-2005, 08:12 PM
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Car: 1986 Z28 Camaro Gunmetal Gray with
Engine: GM Crate ZZZ HO 350, Edelbrock head
Transmission: Rebuilt 700r4 all TransGo and Beast
Axle/Gears: 10 bolt with 3.73 gears
How much can you build up a wc t5 versus a nwc?
i found a t5 for very cheap that i have no idea about. i think it might even work, but the person does not know what year it is from. if it is nwc, how much can i build it up...or to what power ratings? im talkin 150 for a whole swap.
12-16-2005, 12:25 PM
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Car: '86 Camaro, '02 WRX, '87 K5, '67
Engine: 350 TPI, 2.0turbo, 383 in the works, 289-4BBL, 232, A-head 4-cylinder
Transmission: T56, 5-speed, 700R4, C4, T176, semi-auto 2-speed
Axle/Gears: 3.73, 3.90, 4.88, 3.55, 3.54, 7.00
WC T5 can be built up to 500 lbs/ft and 600 HP.
NWC can only be rebuilt stock, which is 250 lbs/ft.
Look for a torx head bolt on the left side of the case. That's a WC. If it's a hex head then it's a NWC and basically worthless. If you get all the swap stuff for $150 though you could just dump the trans on eBay and still have everythign else. Then hunt for a WC T5 from an '88-'92 F-car.
NWC can only be rebuilt stock, which is 250 lbs/ft.
Look for a torx head bolt on the left side of the case. That's a WC. If it's a hex head then it's a NWC and basically worthless. If you get all the swap stuff for $150 though you could just dump the trans on eBay and still have everythign else. Then hunt for a WC T5 from an '88-'92 F-car.
12-16-2005, 01:19 PM
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Car: 1986 Z28 Camaro Gunmetal Gray with
Engine: GM Crate ZZZ HO 350, Edelbrock head
Transmission: Rebuilt 700r4 all TransGo and Beast
Axle/Gears: 10 bolt with 3.73 gears
yea, but the guy second in line was local so i let him get it. i can get a wc locally for 350 for the whole swap and was rebuilt about 12k ago with new clutch new flywheel and new starter. then maybe ill build it up a little.
12-17-2005, 08:51 PM
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Car: 85 camaro z28
Engine: 305 TPI
Transmission: T56 6 speed
Axle/Gears: 3.27 borg warner 9 bolt
sounds like a plan 350 isn't to bad of a price. i'm thinking of the swap myself. keep in touch let me know how it goes.
12-17-2005, 09:29 PM
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Car: 1986 Z28 Camaro Gunmetal Gray with
Engine: GM Crate ZZZ HO 350, Edelbrock head
Transmission: Rebuilt 700r4 all TransGo and Beast
Axle/Gears: 10 bolt with 3.73 gears
i will, wont be for a little while though. good luck also.
04-03-2006, 08:49 PM
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Car: 1988 Firebird Formula
Engine: 388 Carb
Transmission: 700R4
Axle/Gears: 4.10
Originally Posted by TKOPerformance
NWC can only be rebuilt stock, which is 250 lbs/ft.
Arent most engines in our cars making more then 250 lbs stock? I know they were at 240 and with a little bit of work more then 250... the numbers have to be off somewhere right???
04-03-2006, 09:05 PM
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Car: 1986 Z28 Camaro Gunmetal Gray with
Engine: GM Crate ZZZ HO 350, Edelbrock head
Transmission: Rebuilt 700r4 all TransGo and Beast
Axle/Gears: 10 bolt with 3.73 gears
thats the nwc trannies. they stopped using them in 87.
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Car: 92 Formula
Engine: 5.0L TBI
Transmission: 700R4
Axle/Gears: 3.73 posi
Originally Posted by TKOPerformance
Look for a torx head bolt on the left side of the case. That's a WC. If it's a hex head then it's a NWC and basically worthless.
04-04-2006, 07:46 AM
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Car: '86 Camaro, '02 WRX, '87 K5, '67
Engine: 350 TPI, 2.0turbo, 383 in the works, 289-4BBL, 232, A-head 4-cylinder
Transmission: T56, 5-speed, 700R4, C4, T176, semi-auto 2-speed
Axle/Gears: 3.73, 3.90, 4.88, 3.55, 3.54, 7.00
Yes, the bolt really isn't deffinative. The secret to removing the bolt is to use an impact gun with a 1/2" to 3/8" reducer and the approprioate socket. Push into the trans as you work the gun and it comes right out. Otherwise they are a royal PITA.
The trans tag is alwas the best way to determine WC or NWC. The problem is that some T5s are missing their tag by now, or it is so rusted that it is unreadable. One way you can't go wrong is to pull the input shaft and check the synchro ring. If it's brass then it's NWC, if it's black then it's WC.
Want another monkey wrench? If you use the brass ring you can install a NWC inpuit shaft into a WC trans and it works. So if someone did that before you it could look like a NWC and really be a WC.
The trans tag is alwas the best way to determine WC or NWC. The problem is that some T5s are missing their tag by now, or it is so rusted that it is unreadable. One way you can't go wrong is to pull the input shaft and check the synchro ring. If it's brass then it's NWC, if it's black then it's WC.
Want another monkey wrench? If you use the brass ring you can install a NWC inpuit shaft into a WC trans and it works. So if someone did that before you it could look like a NWC and really be a WC.
04-04-2006, 08:40 AM
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that's what I did to my last one 
I was told by a shop the races the t-5 that they get longer life from the brass blocking rings. but... I guess it really makes no differance
best way to tell is by the countershaft bearing race. that is the best way to tell with out popping it open.
I was told by a shop the races the t-5 that they get longer life from the brass blocking rings. but... I guess it really makes no differancebest way to tell is by the countershaft bearing race. that is the best way to tell with out popping it open.
04-04-2006, 05:18 PM
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Car: red 89 t-top ta
Engine: 305 tpi
Transmission: t-5
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Originally Posted by 88 350 tpi formula
that's what I did to my last one I was told by a shop the races the t-5 that they get longer life from the brass blocking rings. but... I guess it really makes no differance
best way to tell is by the countershaft bearing race. that is the best way to tell with out popping it open.
I was told by a shop the races the t-5 that they get longer life from the brass blocking rings. but... I guess it really makes no differancebest way to tell is by the countershaft bearing race. that is the best way to tell with out popping it open.
04-04-2006, 06:28 PM
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Car: 92 Formula
Engine: 5.0L TBI
Transmission: 700R4
Axle/Gears: 3.73 posi
Originally Posted by chads89ta
DO YOU HAVE A PIC, OR BE MORE SPECIFIC ON THAT,AS I DONT KNOW WHAT I HAVE THANKS CHAD. MY CASE IS STAMPED 87 ON IT
http://www.qytum.net/tech/t5info.htm
04-05-2006, 11:45 AM
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Car: '86 Camaro, '02 WRX, '87 K5, '67
Engine: 350 TPI, 2.0turbo, 383 in the works, 289-4BBL, 232, A-head 4-cylinder
Transmission: T56, 5-speed, 700R4, C4, T176, semi-auto 2-speed
Axle/Gears: 3.73, 3.90, 4.88, 3.55, 3.54, 7.00
The brass rings may last longer, but they offer rougher and slower shifting. The whole reason behind the switch was that the clutch like lining and cones made shifting smoother and faster. This was also behind the switch from gear oil to ATF.
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