converter lockup delay
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Engine: 350 TPI
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converter lockup delay
I have a 700r4 that will not lock the converter untill the trans gets above 100 degrees.After that lt works great. Is there a temp switch in the trans?
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Re: converter lockup delay
That function is usually in the ECM. Some 700r4's have a temperature switch in the pan. This usually forces the TCC to lock once the trans starts to overheat.
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Re: converter lockup delay
Never seen a temp switch in the tranny, might be in some though, but normally the ECM will trigger the converter when the engine gets to about 150 degrees. Probably some variation on different year cars with that.
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Re: converter lockup delay
I've never seen a wiring diagram for a stock thirdgen 700R4 that included one. No listing for any temperature switches in the P&I.M., either.
Other cars, yes. My 4L60 from a 93 Caprice has one.
Other cars, yes. My 4L60 from a 93 Caprice has one.
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Re: converter lockup delay
That is the stock transmission in my '92. Having installed a Trans-go kit along with replacing the TCC soleniod and associated wiring harness, I can atest that there is a temperature switch.
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From: Mercedes Norte, Heredia, Costa Rica
Car: 1984 Z28 Hardtop
Engine: 383 Carb
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Re: converter lockup delay
Interesting... I found it in the PIM, but not where I would have expected. 4.054 group, P/N 8673634, starting in 1990 for 3.1L and 5.0L, and in 1991 for all 700R4s.
Ok, then, nevermind anything I said about temperature switches.
Ok, then, nevermind anything I said about temperature switches.
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Re: converter lockup delay
Mod wars!
I love it!

Seriously though, what's the purpose of having the tranny get to a certain emp before it will lock up (or not).
I love it!

Seriously though, what's the purpose of having the tranny get to a certain emp before it will lock up (or not).
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Re: converter lockup delay
The temperature switch will force a lock-up if the transmission fluid temperature gets too hot, in case the ECM doesn't for some reason.
The ECM will prevent a lock-up until the engine coolant temperature reaches a minimum temperature.
The ECM will prevent a lock-up until the engine coolant temperature reaches a minimum temperature.
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