lockup or nonlockup?
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From: Mercedes Norte, Heredia, Costa Rica
Car: 1984 Z28 Hardtop
Engine: 383 Carb
Transmission: 4L60
Axle/Gears: 3.54 Dana 44
If it's stock, it's lockup.
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1984 Silver Z28, 383 cid 4 bolt, ARP Fasteners, 2 1/2" Cowl Induction Hood, 600 cfm Performer Carburetor, Torker II Intake, Performer RPM Heads, XE268H Cam, Magnum Roller Tip Rockers, MSD6AL Ignition, Blaster2 Coil, Recurved HEI Distributor, 700R4, TransGo SK, 2.73:1 Limited Slip Dana 44, Terminator Headers, Custom 3" TIG Welded Stainless Exhaust, Flo-Pro Twister Muffler, 4 Wheel Disc Brakes, Oil Cooler
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1984 Silver Z28, 383 cid 4 bolt, ARP Fasteners, 2 1/2" Cowl Induction Hood, 600 cfm Performer Carburetor, Torker II Intake, Performer RPM Heads, XE268H Cam, Magnum Roller Tip Rockers, MSD6AL Ignition, Blaster2 Coil, Recurved HEI Distributor, 700R4, TransGo SK, 2.73:1 Limited Slip Dana 44, Terminator Headers, Custom 3" TIG Welded Stainless Exhaust, Flo-Pro Twister Muffler, 4 Wheel Disc Brakes, Oil Cooler
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From: Orange, SoCal
Car: 1990 Pontiac Trans Am
Engine: 355 TPI siamesed runners
Transmission: Tremec T56
Axle/Gears: 12-Bolt 3.73
Its a lockup, and if you're gonna replace it, get another lockup converter.
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1991 Camaro Z28
5.7L 5-Speed (originally 305)
13.25 @ 107.18 MPH
Southern California
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1991 Camaro Z28
5.7L 5-Speed (originally 305)
13.25 @ 107.18 MPH
Southern California
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From: Neptune City, NJ, USA
Car: 92 RS 25th Aniv. V8
Engine: 350 L05 TBI
Transmission: 700R4 Raptor
yeah man its lock up, and thats what ya need
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(Kill the headlights, and put it in neutral)
--George
92 RS 25th Aniv.
350 Goodwrench (NEW LO5)
700R4 Raptor: high performance intermediate billet servo, high performance overdrive billet servo,Mega Valve,13 vane high performance pump,1800 heavy-duty stall converter and a 29 element heavy-duty forward input sprag.
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(Kill the headlights, and put it in neutral)
--George
92 RS 25th Aniv.
350 Goodwrench (NEW LO5)
700R4 Raptor: high performance intermediate billet servo, high performance overdrive billet servo,Mega Valve,13 vane high performance pump,1800 heavy-duty stall converter and a 29 element heavy-duty forward input sprag.
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From: Maple Grove MN USA
Car: 1984 Z28 Camaro
Engine: H.O. 355 NOS
Transmission: 700R4
Well i disagree with all of you guys. I have a 1984 Z28 with a 700R4 and i converted it to a non-lockup type tranney. In 1989 my Z28 developed a rumble at hwy cruising speeds. It drove me nuts untill i went to the SEMA show in Las Vegas. I talked to a B&M rep and he told me it was the lock-up torque converter. I bought a diesal std torque conv. (1500 stall) and had my tranney overhauled and installed an Art Carr conversion kit to rid me of the lock-up torque conv. I thought i died and went to Heaven. No more lock, unlock ,lock ,unlock. This is the way GM would have designed this tranney if it wasn't for emissions. Just my .02
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From: Littleton, CO USA
Car: 82 Berlinetta/57 Bel Air
Engine: L92/LQ4 (both w/4" stroke)
Transmission: 4L80E/4L80E
Axle/Gears: 12B-3.73/9"-3.89
Auggie, mine rumbles, too, and doesn't lock. Sounds like it has the same problem yours had. But, when I replace it, it'll have a lockup type go back in. You can fix the lock/unlock "searching" with a simple valve change.
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82 Berlinetta, orig V-6 car, now w/86 LG4/TH700R. 2.73 unlimited slip. Cat-back from '91 GTA, Accel HEI SuperCoil. AMSOIL syn lubes bumper-to-bumper. Daily driver, work-in-progress (LB9 w/ZZ3 cam, TBD heads, exhaust, paint, etc.).
57 Bel Air, my 1st car. 0.030 over 396, Weiand Action+, Edelbrock 1901 Q-Jet, Jacobs Omnipack, 1-3/4" headers, TH400 w/TCI Sat Night Special conv & shift kit, 3.08 10-bolt, AMSOIL syn lubes bumper-to-bumper. Best 15.1 @ 5800' Bandimere. Daily driver while Camaro was being put together.
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82 Berlinetta, orig V-6 car, now w/86 LG4/TH700R. 2.73 unlimited slip. Cat-back from '91 GTA, Accel HEI SuperCoil. AMSOIL syn lubes bumper-to-bumper. Daily driver, work-in-progress (LB9 w/ZZ3 cam, TBD heads, exhaust, paint, etc.).
57 Bel Air, my 1st car. 0.030 over 396, Weiand Action+, Edelbrock 1901 Q-Jet, Jacobs Omnipack, 1-3/4" headers, TH400 w/TCI Sat Night Special conv & shift kit, 3.08 10-bolt, AMSOIL syn lubes bumper-to-bumper. Best 15.1 @ 5800' Bandimere. Daily driver while Camaro was being put together.
You may have a lockup converter, but if it isn't locking up, get under the car and check to see if the previous owner disconnected the TCC plug from its socket and left it hanging. The transmission will shift smoother, but the gas mileage will drop about 2 mpg!
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From: Orange, SoCal
Car: 1990 Pontiac Trans Am
Engine: 355 TPI siamesed runners
Transmission: Tremec T56
Axle/Gears: 12-Bolt 3.73
Uhm... dont lockup converters increase gas mileage? It eliminates the slippage, which causes less friction and heat, which makes the trans more efficient.
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From: Central NJ, USA
Car: 1986 Firebird
Engine: 2.8 V6
Transmission: 700R4
Jrr, can you believe that when Lee Myles did my first trans, they left that unhooked on purpose?? On my first drive, I noticed the car wasn't locking up, looked under, noticed the wire was hanging. I plugged it back in. I went back a few days later so they could check the fluid level as per their warrantee required, and joked with them that "yeah, one of your men forgot to plug the TCC back in."
He told me that he unplugged it, because the car felt better without it, and why did I plug it back in?
Of course the torque convertor grenaded a few weeks after that... some hidden crack that finally burst and took out the pump's front seal...
Then 2.5 years later the $1400 trans dies.
I hate Lee Myles.
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He told me that he unplugged it, because the car felt better without it, and why did I plug it back in?

Of course the torque convertor grenaded a few weeks after that... some hidden crack that finally burst and took out the pump's front seal...
Then 2.5 years later the $1400 trans dies.
I hate Lee Myles.
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