700r-4 problem
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700r-4 problem
ok heres the deal ive tried every EVERY position with the 700r-4's tv cable and still it wont shift at the correct times wtf? what gives? i either shifts late or early wtf? any help is greatly appricated!!!!!! could ther tv be streched? how can you tell??? wtf?? how about the thingy in the tranny that the cable goes on??(the hook?)just.....wtf??? please help. cause i give the hell up?(man i mad!) cant figure this one out and it sucks!!! yes , ive set it according to the tech section on this page!! and still wtf??
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89 firebird formula
356 9:1 compression
comp cams xe262 cam
performer rpm intake
#1405 edlebrock 600
882 casting 202/160 valves
msd 6al
h.e.i. proform 50,000 volt vac. advance ditributor
700r-4 with 3.08 first gear and 3.23 posi 7 5/8 rear end.
b&m trans shift kit(will kill shifts...suck dong!!)
shorty heddman hedders with custom 3" pipe y-pipe back(no damn cat!) with 40 series flowmaster!
future mods: 406 roller REALLY REALLY REALLY RADICAL!!!!!
[This message has been edited by burnoutrpm (edited February 28, 2001).]
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89 firebird formula
356 9:1 compression
comp cams xe262 cam
performer rpm intake
#1405 edlebrock 600
882 casting 202/160 valves
msd 6al
h.e.i. proform 50,000 volt vac. advance ditributor
700r-4 with 3.08 first gear and 3.23 posi 7 5/8 rear end.
b&m trans shift kit(will kill shifts...suck dong!!)
shorty heddman hedders with custom 3" pipe y-pipe back(no damn cat!) with 40 series flowmaster!
future mods: 406 roller REALLY REALLY REALLY RADICAL!!!!!
[This message has been edited by burnoutrpm (edited February 28, 2001).]
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Just an "out there" ideas.
Have you checked your transmission fluid level? If its low, the line pressure wont be the same.
Have you replaced the filter recently? It could be clogged and causing the delay in shifts.
My understanding of the TV cable, due its ability to adjust, it cant really be stretched.
lm sure others, more familiar w/ the internals of the transmission, would be able to go into more depth as far as the workings.
Clayton
Have you checked your transmission fluid level? If its low, the line pressure wont be the same.
Have you replaced the filter recently? It could be clogged and causing the delay in shifts.
My understanding of the TV cable, due its ability to adjust, it cant really be stretched.
lm sure others, more familiar w/ the internals of the transmission, would be able to go into more depth as far as the workings.
Clayton
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If you have a 700R4 out of a v6 and you are running a v8 you won't be able to get the shift points right because of valve body differences, or so I have heard. Waaaaaaay out theree but just thought I'd mention it.
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700R-4 is the same whether in a V-6 or V-8. sometimes you cant get exactly the rpm's you desire to shift at. lots of times at my shop we have to modify the governor or change the springs. the cable will only get you so far
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From: Springfield, MO, USA
Car: 1986 Trans Am, 1991 Firebird
Engine: 355 TPI, 3.1L V6
Transmission: 700R4 in both
It's his origianl 700R4 that came with his 305TBI car.....it was rebuilt a long while back!! After it was rebuilt, he put it back in with the 305TBI and it shifted where he wanted it too! Now he's swapped to the 356 with a carb and he can't get the shift points back where he wants them!! The valve body has been modified to the max! This thing will f*cking rip your head off when it shifts...I don't like riding in it a whole lot! 
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1986 Trans AM
305 TPI
200,000+ miles (speedo/odometer non-funtional! Odometer reads 142,000)
4 Wheel Discs
9 bolt Borg Warner Rear (2.77's....oh joy) :P
Completely Stock
Soon to upgrade to a 355 converted from TPI to Carb, Edelbrock 750CFM Carb, Edelbrock Performer RPM Intake, Hedman Shorty Headers, Stock casting pocket ported heads (2.02/1.60 - 65cc), XE268 Cam, Moroso HEI ignition kit with external MSD Blaster II Coil and an MSD 6-AL Box!!
Current project: Keeping my 305 running until I get my income tax returns!
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1986 Trans AM
305 TPI
200,000+ miles (speedo/odometer non-funtional! Odometer reads 142,000)
4 Wheel Discs
9 bolt Borg Warner Rear (2.77's....oh joy) :P
Completely Stock
Soon to upgrade to a 355 converted from TPI to Carb, Edelbrock 750CFM Carb, Edelbrock Performer RPM Intake, Hedman Shorty Headers, Stock casting pocket ported heads (2.02/1.60 - 65cc), XE268 Cam, Moroso HEI ignition kit with external MSD Blaster II Coil and an MSD 6-AL Box!!
Current project: Keeping my 305 running until I get my income tax returns!
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From: Central NJ, USA
Car: 1986 Firebird
Engine: 2.8 V6
Transmission: 700R4
Actually a V6 700r4 won't bolt up to a V8 motor, the bellhousing's too small.
If the TV cable isn't attached to the carb correctly, that would probably cause the problem...
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If the TV cable isn't attached to the carb correctly, that would probably cause the problem...
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ok heres the deal..... when i do as outlined int he tech dept. article and open the throttle wide open the cable wont come out!!!! and set its self! why>?????wtf?? my fluid level is fine! forgewt about the v6 trans crap its a v8 700. also the cable is properly attached to the carb! so now what do i do??? also i do think you can strech the cable especiAally mine it wont pull out when you open the throttle!!!
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89 firebird formula
356 9:1 compression
comp cams xe262 cam
performer rpm intake
#1405 edlebrock 600
882 casting 202/160 valves
msd 6al
h.e.i. proform 50,000 volt vac. advance ditributor
700r-4 with 3.08 first gear and 3.23 posi 7 5/8 rear end.
b&m trans shift kit(will kill shifts...suck dong!!)
shorty heddman hedders with custom 3" pipe y-pipe back(no damn cat!) with 40 series flowmaster!
future mods: 406 roller REALLY REALLY REALLY RADICAL!!!!!
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89 firebird formula
356 9:1 compression
comp cams xe262 cam
performer rpm intake
#1405 edlebrock 600
882 casting 202/160 valves
msd 6al
h.e.i. proform 50,000 volt vac. advance ditributor
700r-4 with 3.08 first gear and 3.23 posi 7 5/8 rear end.
b&m trans shift kit(will kill shifts...suck dong!!)
shorty heddman hedders with custom 3" pipe y-pipe back(no damn cat!) with 40 series flowmaster!
future mods: 406 roller REALLY REALLY REALLY RADICAL!!!!!
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From: Central NJ, USA
Car: 1986 Firebird
Engine: 2.8 V6
Transmission: 700R4
So you shove the cable all the way in, and release the tab. The cable then won't pull out? Yeah, something's wrong with the adjuster or cable. The cable should ratchet out a few clicks.
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by 89ProchargedROC:
700R-4 is the same whether in a V-6 or V-8. sometimes you cant get exactly the rpm's you desire to shift at. lots of times at my shop we have to modify the governor or change the springs. the cable will only get you so far</font>
700R-4 is the same whether in a V-6 or V-8. sometimes you cant get exactly the rpm's you desire to shift at. lots of times at my shop we have to modify the governor or change the springs. the cable will only get you so far</font>
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by FastBroker:
If you have a 700R4 out of a v6 and you are running a v8 you won't be able to get the shift points right because of valve body differences, or so I have heard. Waaaaaaay out theree but just thought I'd mention it.</font>
If you have a 700R4 out of a v6 and you are running a v8 you won't be able to get the shift points right because of valve body differences, or so I have heard. Waaaaaaay out theree but just thought I'd mention it.</font>
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From: Shelbyville, IN
Car: 92' RS Camaro
Engine: L98
Transmission: 700R4
well my 7004r was on a v6... came off of a 4.3 in an astro van which is just basically a 350 with two cylinders chopped off... maybe thats what he meant... hehe
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From: PA
Car: 88 Firebird WS6
Engine: 350 TPI
Transmission: T56
Axle/Gears: 3.42
Even then, there are different input drums/clutch counts from the 4.3 to the v8
I think he meant the TV adjustment/ect is the same
I think he meant the TV adjustment/ect is the same
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